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Are the surfaces original or enhanced on this SLQ?

I saw this raw coin advertised in an auction on EBay. Looks too nice to be true. Is the coin doctored, have AT, or is the photo played around with. Your opinion please as I was thinking of bidding on it. Should I get involved?

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    WilliamFWilliamF Posts: 832 ✭✭✭✭✭

    !00% a doctored photo... :#

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    CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,603 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seems to me the contrast has been turned way up with photo editing. I bet the color balance has been played with too. I wouldn’t buy the coin for that reason alone.

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That’s what happens when you push the contrast slider to the max in Photoshop.

    Young Numismatist, Coin Photographer.

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    Bigbuck1975Bigbuck1975 Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A photo from Canyon City Coin?

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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,730 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Altered image.

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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    WalkerloverWalkerlover Posts: 709 ✭✭✭✭

    @Bigbuck1975 said:
    A photo from Canyon City Coin?

    @Bigbuck1975 said:
    A photo from Canyon City Coin?

    Yes

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    WalkerloverWalkerlover Posts: 709 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for your input. They made the coin look like a MS 67-68

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 7,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The high contrast is trying to hide the rub while bringing out the luster.
    Easy pass

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    WalkerloverWalkerlover Posts: 709 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 11, 2022 8:33PM

    @Coinscratch said:
    The high contrast is trying to hide the rub while bringing out the luster.
    Easy pass

    Is the coin worth AU money or is it a detailed coin? What price can one bid?

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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,730 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerlover said:

    @Coinscratch said:
    The high contrast is trying to hide the rub while bringing out the luster.
    Easy pass

    Is the coin worth AU money or is it a detailed coin? What price can one bid?

    Bid whatever you want, but you already have red flags flying...

    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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    MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 11, 2022 8:49PM

    @Walkerlover said:

    @Coinscratch said:
    The high contrast is trying to hide the rub while bringing out the luster.
    Easy pass

    Is the coin worth AU money or is it a detailed coin? What price can one bid?

    Without seeing the coin (the image in the eBay listing probably doesn't help), nobody can answer your questions.

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 7,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerlover said:

    @Coinscratch said:
    The high contrast is trying to hide the rub while bringing out the luster.
    Easy pass

    Is the coin worth AU money or is it a detailed coin? What price can one bid?

    Well that’s the problem isn’t it.
    At first glance it looks MS, after closer study and seeing the rub (shown in colors thru high contrast) especially on the high points of the obverse then AU.
    Problem is the other problems we cannot see.

    I don’t know the value of these so cannot guess other than to say I wouldn’t sink much into it.

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    WalkerloverWalkerlover Posts: 709 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I will pass based on your advice

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    CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 7,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 11, 2022 9:08PM

    I turned the contrast all the way back down from an already messed with image which, didn’t help much.
    I did see a minor gouge on the Rev and something on Liberty right leg.
    Also I checked the values and I certainly wouldn’t pay more than AU money, 100 bucks. Go 111 if you really want it :)

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    WalkerloverWalkerlover Posts: 709 ✭✭✭✭

    @Coinscratch said:
    I turned the contrast all the way back down from an already messed with image which, didn’t help much.
    I did see a minor gouge on the Rev and something on Liberty right leg.
    Also I checked the values and I certainly wouldn’t pay more than AU money, 100 bucks. Go 111 if you really want it :)

    Thank you that was helpful

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    emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's a camera selling at 20 to 30 dollars and the app is automaticly installed (no brainer) .
    The app is easy to navigate . The app is all you need for forensics of any photos.
    Use it wisely and honestly and you be impressed.

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    jacrispiesjacrispies Posts: 717 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard pass on any Canyon City Coin. Unless there is an apocalypse and there is no one left to run up the bids, don't even bother. They have been proven to photoshop their coins and a huge following to run up any auction to the moon.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,508 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a hard pass

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No question who the seller is. Every coin they sell, regardless of series has the exact same enhanced look. I mean a large dealer. Stay far away from their coins.
    Jim


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    mbogomanmbogoman Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Bigbuck1975 said:
    A photo from Canyon City Coin?

    Took the words right out of my mouth. First thing that came to mind when I saw the photo...

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely a pass.... Altered image.... The image vs. the coin you would get, would be totally different. Cheers, RickO

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,887 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinscratch said:
    I turned the contrast all the way back down from an already messed with image which, didn’t help much.
    I did see a minor gouge on the Rev and something on Liberty right leg.
    Also I checked the values and I certainly wouldn’t pay more than AU money, 100 bucks. Go 111 if you really want it :)

    There's little you can undo once excessive contrast is applied and the image is exported to a jpg. The data is just not there. It is true of a lot of editor adjustments, like adding or reducing shadows or glare, repairs, etc.

    I wouldn't bid on a coin whose pictures have been doctored. I couldn't muster the trust.
    Lance.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,430 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Has anyone here ever sent them a message requesting undoctored pics of a specific coin?

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,767 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Canyon city has been discussed many times, I'd suggest a search will reveal much about the seller. As to the coin it is a very easily obtained coin so no reason to take any risks on poor juiced photos.

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