Brand new to numismatics, and trying to help one of my art and antiques clients who trusts me...
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I am brand new to numismatics, and suspect I could easily be ripped off, and as I am working for a client who asked me to work on their art and antiques, which IS my area of expertise, not coins, I said I wold help when they asked me to do so with their coins because they trust me. I have made other posts here, asking questions and learning, learning, learning, watching PCGS and other videos, and reading posts too... So, I am not sure if I should try to post in the buy & sell US coins area, but it looks like I need 100 posts before I can even start a new topic from what the notice says about that page. So, I will try. I understood before I went in to the Dealer yesterday, that they would use the GreySheet/whole sale pricing to make offers from, which he did exactly that. Along with commenters in my other posts, this dealer said there was nothing worth sending in for grading first. So, are the dealers offers, if they are truth worthy and ethical, the general best pricing to expect, without piecemeal selling off a collection, which for me is large to do for them with 600 - 800 total pieces for two customers? I know I can use CoinStar for the unimportant, as he put it, "gas money" coins. Am I missing an intelligent conic and/or step? I will post this in one of the other chains I started too, just in case I am not allowed to do it in here yet, thank you all. Sincerely, Greg.
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It would be helpful to understand what kind of coins your client has. Most US coins (except nickels and pennys) dated 1964 or earlier are silver. So, they are at least worth their weight in silver. I would count up all of these. If you want to get estimates on value I suggest using Reddit. The r/coins subreddit can help you get a sense of value for coins. You’ll get some snarky comments but it’s a quick way to learn.
It's impossible to say what these holdings could be worth without a listing of them. Once you have that, the better items would need good pictures. If a professional dealer has told you that nothing is worth the grading fees, he's probably right. The rule of thumb was $200. Now it's got to be more like $400 or so given the high prices for grading and shipping.
The lead times are also a factor. It took me over three months to get a piece of Confederate paper money graded, and it was worth around $400 when everything was said and done.
A great many people saved every Kennedy Half Dollar they got. Aside from the 1964 coins, which contain 90% silver and the 1965 to '69 coins (1970 was only issued in Proof and Mint Sets) are made of 40% silver. Most all of the rest that most people have is "gas money."
Common Proof and Mint sets are routinely sold on eBay. Simply open an account, take a nice picture of the front and back of your listing and start the 7 day auction at .99 cents. Surprisingly (or not), this route will actually determine the market value of your common collectables.
@bretsan, thank you for that idea! I really appreciate it! I will check out the threat on Reddit! I am not too worried about snarky comments! No problem. I take the good with the bad! Sincerely, Greg.
@BillJones, Thank you for your great comments! That was very useful! $400+ for grading, great to know. Unfortunately, they have few if any, after I have downgraded my neophyte initial gradings. It is still a crap shoot, as if I am wrong, then oops, and it is not my money being spent! A few people have commented on the slow turnaround time too... So, that is on my mind. He liked the 1964 and early halves, and silver dollars of course for their silver values. There was definitely "gas money" here through. Thank you, Greg.
@ColoncelKlinck, Interesting angel on this, thank you. My concern is working way too hard on preparing eBay listings, and getting the same or nearly the same amount as they would get from selling to the dealer, with little of no payoff for me in return! But, I could try the mint' proofs there, no doubt. I have already talked to them about that once perviously.
Thank you everyone, Greg.
No offense intended, truthfully, but it seems to me you should recuse yourself from this part of the deal. These folks trust that you have their financial best interests paramount, but you immediately admit you know essentially nothing about coins and have now resorted to asking vague questions of complete strangers. I doubt very much that you clients would still trust you if they knew how you were going about with an education or with a valuation. You must have a colleague or someone else you can recommend for these folks if you are truly working for them and not yourself.
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I’d also add two points to this. First, if your clients know coins, they should know what they have and at least have an idea of the route to go. If they inherited everything, that’s different. Second, if the coins don’t seem particularly valuable, remember that a dealer’s offer includes their expertise and time to resell the coins. If there’s tons of material, you could go the eBay route, but if the coins aren’t great or your listings/photos aren’t impressive, after fees you might not have earned all that much extra, not to mention you spent a ton of time doing all the legwork. If you can identify even a sampling of good pieces, then there’s somewhere to go. If it’s hundred and hundreds of unknown coins, it’s going to be really hard to make any money beyond what a dealer will offer unless you come in with a lot of knowledge.
list them on here what you have. pick out what you think are the more valuable and post a photo
My advice
Post here Vs eBay for no risk and just ask best offer. eBay has so many ups and downs. I’ve paid x2 during March to April and less than half price sold in November.
@TomB, Point very well taken. My issues was I did not know anyone here to truly trust in coins yet, which I have not been referred to by a PCGS Forum commenter, out here. I explained to the clients, in no uncertain terms, I am not a coin person, and would have to learn, before they said to go ahead and help them out on this. I have put in my own, uncharged for time into this for that reason, and they have lost nothing for my efforts. I know have visited on coin dealer, and have been referred to two more by a numismatist in this region, who I will visit next. I then can give them my findings, and they can make any decisions they choose to from there. My goal was to learn, and it has been one h_ll of a learning curve, which is clearly a very long road, and to help them. However, how do I learn if I do not put in the effort to actually learn? Also, if the people in this PCGS forum can not be trusted, then essentially no one can in coins! I get your points completely though, and thank you.
@airplanenut, The clients clearly do not know coins, or I suspect they would not have bought what they did. Some were inherited, some were purchased. The dealer direction seems to be the most intelligent after having gone over all of them, and visiting the first dealer. It has been an interesting process for sure. In this case, I have not been doing this for the income, otherwise, I would be WAY, WAY behind, and would never have started the process! Thank you for your thoughts.
@Collectorcoins, thank you. I just did not want to be rude and overwhelm with too many pieces posted here. I can do that.
@johnny010, thanks for the idea. Once I have talked to the owners when I have met the last two dealers, I can let them know that is also an option.
I advise you to get out of the deal. This like having a toothache and going to the lawyers office. Rarely does something work out. You are over your head. Admit it and tell the client you are just overwhelmed when it comes to numismatics. Besides not knowing bullcrap about coins how are you going to do with varietes (which oftentime can increase the value by 100x or more?
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Why can't the client go directly to dealers, why pay you?
@AUandAG, thank you! I really get it. I am learning, that is my point. The client is NOT paying me anything. I am not sure why so many folks here can not understand my personal goal is to learn. If they have me sell the coins, then, yes, I will get something out of it. I am going to have visited three dealers for offers for them, as I want to see their process in person, i.e. more learning. If they want to sell the coins, that is their choice and fine with me. I really do appreciate all of the help, comments both critical and constructive - that is why I am doing this, and to protect them as best as I can. They CAN go to the dealers themselves. They are older, have just downsized, and there are some medical issues involved. I should not help them if I want to? My bonus is the learning! I am not trying to be a professional numismatist, I am trying to learn what I can, so when I have the next client who asks me about coins, I can take a fast look while on-site, and say, best to go to a dealer, or you might have something that should be looked at. I have started to build a group of very helpful reference people to send these types of people to by having posted here in the PCGS forms for the future. I do not plan to take so much time ever again, except as a hobby now for myself and my family. Maybe these posts are too disparate for continuity, but I have made most of these comments here before about the overall purpose and understanding of the clients. Thank you, really!
It is a great hobby and fairly easy to get up to speed on most US coins. Get the Red Book and read it. Also understand that you never clean or mess with a coin unless you want to destroy the value. Just leave alone. https://www.ebay.com/itm/112925791503?
@AUandAG , Thank you for the kind comment. I bought the Red Book, but have not yet read it. As an art, antiques and antiquities expert, I am highly aware of the concept, never clean anything, but appreciate you pointing it out! I remember when I was a kid with my grandmother, I loved cleaning the pennies with an eraser, and she would say, "Stop! Do not do that!" And I would say, "But I like them bright and shiny!" She then purposefully gave me pennies and told me, "it is okay to clear these!" I will take a look at your link you posted from eBay, thanks, Greg.
Welcome. It's refreshing to see a novice who's so articulate, and seemingly without illusions.
I'm sure you know what I mean, when you come into contact with the uninitiated within your own art & antiques field.
@lordmarcovan, Hey! Thank you for the kind welcome, and compliment. I have NO illusions, as you are right, I run into this issues constantly within my area of expertise! Thank you, Greg.
what type of coins are they? you have a redbook. post some photos.
My guess/fear is that these "collections" are just a mishmash of stuff - accumulations of the sort that so many people (including some of us here) end up with.
You did come up with one good find - that broadstruck nickel. Maybe there are a few other hidden gems.
Why not post some random photos of the pile?
It sounds like these people came to you because they trusted you, and now you in turn have to find someone you trust to advise you. Dealers can be a big help but they have their own perspectives and priorities.
I helped a family friend get rid of an accumulation once. It wasn't a ton of work but I almost had the sense that she was afraid she was getting lowballled. Hopefully you can avoid that dynamic here.
Not sure if it's been posted I don't feel like going through 100 posts but when someone said that the odd change you can use as gas money and put it in Coinstar I would not take that advice from what it sounds like you may have a lot of silver and that's going to be worth way more. Most change before 1964 including it is made of silver with the exception of the pennies get yourself a magnet and if the coin sticks strong to the magnet it is not silver or does not have enough silver content in it to be worth much
@Collectorcoins, I am going to post the entire list I have finally finished typing up, after I have finished these replies. I am happy to post images of anything people think might be worthwhile to do so with, thanks!
@JBK, You seem to be generally correct, a mishmash... There are hundreds of coins, see the note above to Collectorcoins, and then the list below. If you want to see any, my photos have JUST improved in the last 48 hours thanks to nwcoast. One of the main reasons I am here, it to do exactly what you are saying - avoid getting beat up/lowballed! I know I am not skilled enough in any aspect of numismatics, and thus needed to seek guidance and advice before selling these two collection. Thank you.
@Shojohn, the dealer who made the offer, made it on all of the silver, but thank you for pointing that potential folly out! I do get it, but it is good to make that clear! I think we was referring to very beat up more and "face value" pennies, nickels, etc... But, very good point! I did not know about the magnet trick, so thanks! I can do that. I have a rare earth magnet about 20 feet away from me right now! Thanks, Greg.
I was asked to post this primary list a while ago, and have finally finished it completely! So, here it is. Any comments are welcome. If someone wants to see a particular coin, I can take images of it, as I have figured out how to take better images now, that are more accurate than my initial images.
These are the primary items that my two clients have asked me to sell for them. We are HAPPY to sell in bulk, and the highest offer will be passed by the clients. For their consideration and approval. This requires two separate offers though please, “client # 1” and “client #2,” if you have any interest, thank you. If there is something special, we could consider selling individual pieces, but I am not willing to break everything up in small chunks, just too much work, and then we might not sell everything too. I likely will not take photos of all of the coins, as it is simply too time consuming at this point. If you have interest in some specific coins, feel free to ask. I hope that when I post the retakes of those I have already posted, that people here will weigh if there are some pieces that might be worthy of considering grading, and if so, I can take more images of related pieces to post too, which I will then take.
Client # 1's Coins, then Mint/Proof Sets, and other items there after (second client's coins and stamps follow the first client's list).
The loose coins and coins in plastic tub rolls (this list may not be all inclusive, but the only coins missing would be ones of low value):
A group of Kennedy Half Dollars:
1) 1964, non-cameo, normal hair, PCGS# 6706.
2) 1964, non-cameo (maybe cameo), PCGS# 6706.
3) 1964-D 5 pieces, 1964-D, best of the 5 coins, non-cameo, normal hair, PCGS# 6707.
4) 1965, non-cameo, normal hair, PCGS# 6708.
5) 1966, non-cameo, normal hair, not SMS DDO nor “no FG” initial coin, PCGS# 6709.
6) 1967, non-cameo, normal hair, PCGS# 6710.
7) 1969-D darker coin, non-cameo, normal hair, PCGS# 6712.
8) 1969-D, Shared with numismatists/photos, Possible die crack Obv. Non-cameo, normal hair, almost no damage??, PCGS# 6712. Forum opinion, MS63-65???.
9) 1972-D, shared with numismatists/photos, almost no coin/bag rash. Non-cameo, normal hair, PCGS# 6713. Appears MUCH worse in photos, Forum opinion also about MS63-65.
Eisenhower (Ike) Dollars, 11 pieces. 10 of 11 are Type II (2) eagle, none are “Friendly Eagles.” One may be a “Peg Leg 'R'”:
10) 1971-D, shared with numismatists, possible peg leg “R” in Liberty on Obv = error variety 1D1-201. Non-cameo/slight-cameo?, PCGS# 148405.
11) The other 10...
Peace Dollars, 11 pieces, all low relief:
12) 1922, 3 pieces, one of the best shared with numismatists, PCGS# 7357.
13) 1923, 2 pieces, PCGS# 7360.
14) 1923-D, PCGS# 7361.
15) 1923-S, PCGS# 7362, one with planchet metal “error?” inline upper right quadrant, dark line in metal.
16) 1925, 3 pieces, PCGS# 7365.
17) 1926-S, PCGS# .
Moran Dollars:
18) 1878-S, 7-tail feathers, PCGS# 7074.
19) 1879, 2 pieces, best of the two (darker coin of the two), PCGS# 7084.
20) 1880-S, PCGS# 7118, very worn, “Large 'S'”?
21) 1881-O, PCGS# 7128.
22) 1882, 3 pieces, PCGS# 7132.
23) 1884, PCGS# 7150.
24) 1885, PCGS# 7158.
25) 1885-O, PCGS# 7158/7159.
26) 1886-O, PCGS# 7168/7169.
27) 1887, PCGS# 7168, worn.
28) 1888, PCGS# 7182-7183.
29) 1888-O, PCGS# 7184.
30) 1890-O, strange planchet with irregularities???, PCGS# 7192.
31) 1891, PCGS# 7204.
32) 1896, PCGS# 7240.
33) 1897, PCGS# 7246.
34) 1898-O, PCGS# 7255.
35) 1899-O, 2 pieces, PCGS# 7260.
36) 1900, PCGS# 7264.
37) 1900-O, PCGS# 7266/7267.
38) 1902, PCGS#
39) 1921, 6 pieces, PCGS# (PL 7297/MS 8296), to me the best three look PL, while the other are somewhat close.
40) 1921-D, 2 pieces, PCGS# 7298/7299.
Random coins and groupings:
41) 1861, gold $2.50, Quarter Eagle, PCGS# 7791, Coronet Head, Liberty Head, New Reverse.
42) 1910, gold $2.50, Indian Head, PCGS# 7941, incuse.
43) 1927, gold $2.50, Indian Head, PCGS# 7951, incuse.
44) 1965, PCGS# 206560, Crown Dollar, Churchill/Queen Elizabeth II, possibly may be just satin in it's finish, and may have a slight rainbow shine.
45) 1942, Mercury Head Dime, PCGS# 5028, no full bands, no overprinted “1.”
46) 1945, 2 pieces, Mercury Head Dime, PCGS# 5056, not full band, possibly proof like???
47) 1963, 2 pieces, Roosevelt Dime, one may be full band (FB), while one may not be.
48) 1955 and 1955S, Red Lincoln Wheat pennies, taped to an envelope, I did not remove them: 1955, PCGS# 2824, (however, the tape may be a big problem with this grading if removed); 1955-S, PCGS# 2833.
49) 1959, Lincoln Memorial penny, PCGS# 2854, in white paper “capsule.”
50) 1964-D, Jefferson Nickle, PCGS# 4076, not full step.
51) 1950-D, Jefferson Nickle, PCGS# 84041, full step (FS).
52) 1999 Jefferson Nickle, PCGS# 84144, “broadstruck/broadstrike/large struck/large broad struck” error?.
53) 1776-1976-D, Kennedy Half Dollar, PCGS# 6727, with “filler-die error, Reverse, with a weak “C,” “E” and “L” in Independence Hall, and almost no “H” in Hall.
54) 1776-1976-D, Kennedy Half Dollar, PCGS# 6727.
55) 1967, Kennedy Half Dollar, PCGS# , non-cameo.
56) 1979-S, Kennedy Half Dollar, PCGS# , DCAM, Type I.
57) 2005-S, Kennedy Half Dollar, PCGS# , DCAM, Type I.
58) 1971-D, 2 pieces, Eisenhower Dollar, PCGS# 7407, possible Machine Doubling (MD).
59) 1972, Eisenhower Dollar, PCGS# 7409, Type III (3) Moon.
60) 1972-D, Eisenhower Dollar, PCGS# 7410, non-cameo.
61) 1964-D, 2 rolls (43 total pieces and 51 pieces, for a total of 94 coins), Roosevelt Dimes, PCGS# 5129/85129, possibly uncirculated, from the first roll, 5 may be Full band (FB) and the other 38 are not full band.
62) 1884-O (appears to be “O” on the back, but it is stapled down), Morgan Dollar, PCGS# 7154 (MS), in Envelope and Flyer, “A Silver Dollar 1884, Uncirculated, From the Home of the Silver Dollar, Wallace, Idaho.” Non-cameo.
63) 1963-D, 1 roll (50 pieces), Red (R) or Red-Brown (RB), Lincoln Modern pennies, PCGS$ Red 2887, PCGS# Red-Brown 2886, proof like?
64) 1964-D, 4 rolls (200 pieces), Red or Red-Brown, Lincoln Modern pennies, PCGS# Red 2893, PCGS# Red-Brown 2892, proof like? Also, it appears I found three, back to back to back, “Cracked Skulls,” that have the exact same die-cracks in them. I would suspect that may add value to them.
65) 1964-D, 1 roll (40 pieces), Jefferson Nickles, PCGS# 4076, none are full step (FS), may be proof like?
66) Franklin Half Dollars, 5 pieces: None are special.
67) Walking Liberty Half Dollars, 14 pieces.
68) 1943, “steel cent”, PCGS# 2711.
69) Barber dimes, 10 pieces, none are special.
Loose Mercury Head dimes. There are 23 pieces, most are not worth more than $8.00. But I will highlight two here:
70) 1942, PCGS# 5028, no over printed “1.”
71) 1945, 2 pieces, PCGS# 5056/5057.
72) 1883, Seated Liberty dime, PCGS# 4780/84780/84780.
73) 1866, 3 cent nickle, PCGS# 3732.
74) 1920, Mercury Head dime in paper “case.” PCGS# 4928/4929.
75) 1963, Roosevelt Dime, PCGS# 5126/85126, not full band.
76) 1963, Roosevelt Dime, PCGS# 5126/85126, possible full band???
77) 1904, Indian head Penny, PCGS# 2217/2218/2219.
78) 1985, 2 pieces, Lincoln Modern pennies, PCGS# ?, in paper capsules, mis-stamped, off center, error. Red?.
79) 1987, Lincoln Modern penny, PCGS# ?, in paper capsules, mis-stamped, off center, error. Red?.
80) 1961-D and 1958-D, 2 pieces, struck on thin planchets, PCGS #s?.
81) Six Lincoln pennies. One stood out. 1959, possibly almost uncirculated, PCGS# 2854.
82) 1907, Indian Head penny, PCGS# 2226/2227/2228.
83) Buffalo Nickles. 43 pieces, with only one standing out. 1936, Buffalo Nickle, PCGS# 3977, Brilliant?
84) Jefferson Nickles. 38 pieces. There were two standouts: 1950-D Jefferson Nickle, possibly uncirculated, PCGS# 4042/84042. The second was a 1964-D, Jefferson Nickle, PCGS# 4076/84076/94076, Proof/Proof Like?.
85) 1945, Washington Quarter Dollar, PCGS# 5827.
86) 1962, Washington Quarter Dollar, PCGS# 5872.
87) 1944, Walking Liberty Half Dollar, PCGS# 6621.
More Kennedy Half Dollars, 8 pieces, the standouts included:
88) 1776-1976, 2 pieces, Kennedy Half Dollar, PCGS# 6727, MS 66-67, Uncirculated? Clad, Bi-Centennial.
89) 1967, Kennedy Half Dollar, PCGS# 6710.
More Eisenhower Dollars, 13 pieces:
90) 1971-D, PCGS# 7407.
91) 1971-D 5 pieces, PCGS# 7407, lower quality than above.
92) 1972, PCGS# 7409, Type III (3) Moon.
93) 1972-D, 5 pieces, PCGS# 7410.
94) 1972-D, PCGS# 7410, not as nice.
95) A random roll of Roosevelt dimes, 21 pieces.
For the mint/proof sets: The numismatists all stated that there was no reason to get any of the mint/proof sets graded due to their very nature as mint/proof sets.
96) 1 x set/coin) I am only including this because of the early date: 1952, US Mint Set, 50C/25C/10C/5C/1C.
97) 1 x set/coin) 2014, US Mint, Gold clad .999, American Buffalo One Ounce Proof Coin. PCGS# 521929.
98) 1 x set) America The Beautiful, Five Ounce Silver Coin, US Mint, George Rogers Clark, Uncirculated , Special Mint, Lettered Edge, Large Quarter Dollar. PCGS# 654684, this appears to be nearly flawless...???
99) 1 x) American the Beautiful, Five Ounce Silver Coin, US Mint, Olympic National Park, Large Quarter Dollar. PCGS# 505145.
100) 3 x boxes) This represents only one of these three sets: 1966 P, US Special Mint Set (in small blue box), non-cameo, SP/SMS.
-MG, 50cent PCGS# 6846;
-25cent, PCGS# 5998;
-10C FB PCGS# 5241;
-5C FS PCGS# 4198;
-1C Red PCGS# 3293.
101) 1 x) (I am not expecting to send this one in to PCGS, but am listing it, as I already wrote it up. This represents only one of these sets: 1967 P, US Special Mint Set (in small blue box), non-cameo, PR/SMS.
-MG, 50cent PCGS# 6847;
-25cent, PCGS# 5999;
-10C FB PCGS# 5242;
-5C FS PCGS# 4199;
-1C Red PCGS# 3296.
102) 1 x) 1971 S, (thin rectangular blue box-envelope), 5 coin case, non-cameo, PR/SMS.
-MG, 50C, PCGS# 6807;
-25C, PCGS# 6003;
-10C, FB, PCGS# 5249;
-5C, FS, PCGS# 4205;
-1C, Red, PCGS# 3434.
103) 1 x) 1972 S, (thin rectangular blue box-envelope), 5 coin case, non-cameo (except Kennedy), PR/SMS.
-MG, 50C, PCGS# 86808, (this appears to be a cameo);
-25C, PCGS# 6004;
-10C, FB, PCGS# 5249;
-5C, FS, PCGS# 4205;
-1C, Red, PCGS# ?3437?.
104) 1 x) 1973 S, (thin rectangular black box-envelope), 6 coin case, non-cameo?, PR/SMS.
-MG, 1$, PCGS# 7431;
-50C, PCGS# 6809;
-25C, PCGS# 6005;
-10C, FB, PCGS# 5251;
-5C, FS, PCGS# ?94296?;
-1C, Red, PCGS# ?83440?.
105) 1 x) 1974 S, (thin rectangular black box-envelope), 6 coin case, non-cameo?, PR/SMS.
-MG, 1$, PCGS# MS 66-67, this piece has beautiful toning to the moon, and a bit around the outside right side of the Rev, and a bit to the top of the Obv (this could put this coin up a lot apparently, according to one of the PCGS numismatists I have talked to;
-50C, PCGS# 6810, MS 65+ - 66+, there is just the start of toning to the right edge of the Obv, straight to the left of Kennedy's nose, and and a slight ring developing around the Rev, this might put the value up too;
-25C, PCGS# 6006, MS 67-68, a slight ring of toning around the ~left half of the outside ring of the Obv, and a bit more pronounces on the Rev, value up?;
-10C, FB, PCGS# ?95252?, MS 68-69, there may be a hint of toning on the dime;
-5C, FS, PCGS# ?94207?;
-1C, Red, PCGS# ?83443?.
106) 1 x) 1975 S (1776-1976), (thin rectangular black box-envelope), 6 coin case, non-cameo?, PR/SMS.
-MG, 1$, PCGS# ?Silver 7422/clad 7419?;
-50C, PCGS# ?Silver 96812/clad86811?;
-25C, PCGS# ?Silver 86008/clad86007?;
-10C, FB, PCGS# ?95253?;
-5C, FS, PCGS# ?94208?;
-1C, Red, PCGS# ?93446?.
107) 3 x) 1971 S, Ike Dollar, Eisenhower United States Proof Dollar in brown box, with red liner. Cam, There appear to be what I can only refer to now as “clouds” on the Obv, and a light blue “smoke” to the Rev... I have no idea if this is toning or something else, OR, maybe the case, as it looks like a plastic flaw to my eye, which would not surprise me. It almost looks like the silver tarnish has affected the plastic of the case, or vice versa...
1) MG, PCGS ?87428?, MS 68+ - MS 70, other than the clouds, almost flawless?.
2) MG, “” Same strange blue “smoke-like” stuff.
3) MG, “” Same blue...
108) 1 x) 1972 S Ike Dollars, Eisenhower United States Proof Dollar in brown box, with red liner. Cam, Same blue “smoke.” PCGS# 7429, maybe better, but hard to see through the odd blue.
109) 1 x) 1973 S Ike Dollars, Eisenhower United States Proof Dollar in brown box, with red liner. Cam. Same blue “smoke, PCGS# 7431, same smokey color.
110) 1 x) 2007 S, US Mint United States Mint Silver Proof Set, DCAM, (1 sleeve, 2 boxes, three cases of coins, 14 coins in total. I will only list those that I have graded at MS69+).
1$ Washington, PCGS# 150231;
1$ Adams, PCGS# 150232;
1$ Jefferson, PCGS# ? ;
1$ Madison, PCGS# 150235;
25C Montana, PCGS# 39142;
25C Washington State, PCGS# 39148;
25C Idaho, PCGS# 39154;
25C Wyoming, PCGS# 29160;
25C Utah, PCGS# 39166;
1$ Sacajawea, PCGS# 149568;
50C Kennedy, PCGS# 149561;
10C Roosevelt, PCGS# 149526;
5C Jefferson, PCGS# 150466.
111) 1 x) 2010 S, United States Mint Silver Proof Set, DCAM, (1 sleeve, 2 boxes, 3 cases of coins, 14 coins in total. As three are so many coins, I will only list those that in my opinion, hit MS69+.
1$ Buchanan, PCGS# 417266;
25C Arkansas, PCGS# 418828;
25C California, PCGS# 418840;
25C Wyoming, PCGS# 418834;
25C Arizona, PCGS# 418846;
25C Oregon, PCGS# 418852;
1$ Sacajawea, PCGS# 416238;
50C Kennedy, PCGS# 416789;
10C Roosevelt, PCGS# 418806;
5C Jefferson, PCGS# 418789;
1C Lincoln, PCGS# 416682.
112) 1 x) 2014 S, United States Mint Proof Set, DCAM, (1 sleeve, 1 box, 3 cases of coins, 14 coins in total. Only coins I have graded at MS 69+ only are highlighted).
25C Virginia, PCGS# 524113, MS 68-69= $12 – 17;
25C Colorado, PCGS# 524152, MS 68-69 = $8 – 15;
10C Roosevelt, PCGS# 524453, MS 68-69+ = $11 – 12;
5C Jefferson, PCGS# 524444, MS 68-69 = $8 - 14.
113) 1 x) 2016 S, United States Mint Proof Set, DCAM, (1 box, 3 cases of coins, 13 coins in total. Only coins I have graded as MS 69+ only are highlighted).
25C Washington, West Virginia, PCGS# 913666;
10C Roosevelt, PCGS# 600030;
5C Jefferson, PCGS# 593753;
1C Lincoln, PCGS# 598457.
114) 2 x boxes) 2017-S, first box, 2017 US Mint Silver Proof Set, box 2 US Mint America The beautiful Quarter Silver Proof Set, with two sets of quarters with the same states in both, including Iowa, Missouri, Washington D.C., New Jersey and Indian. There is also a set of including a $1 Sacajawea, 50C Kennedy, 10C Roosevelt, 5C Jefferson, and 1C Lincoln. Only coins I have graded as MS 69+ are included below.
10C Roosevelt, PCGS# 620550;
5C Jefferson, PCGS# 620548;
25C Washington, Missouri, PCGS# 627857;
25C Washington, Washington D.C., PCGS # 627856;
25C Washington, Indiana, PCGS# 620330;
25C Washington, Missouri, PCGS # 627857.
115) 2 x boxes) 2018-S, 1 US Mint America The Beautiful Quarters Silver Proof Set with 1 case, 1 box of 2 cases (1$ Sacajawea, 50C Kennedy, 10C Roosevelt, 5C Jefferson, 1C Lincoln. Second case, 25C Washingtons including Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Georgia and Rhode Island – both quarter sets are the same.
25C Washington, Wisconsin, PCGS# 668222.
116) 2018-S, San Francisco Mint Silver Reserve Proof Set, 1 box, 2 cases, including: 1$ Sacajawea, 50C Kennedy, 10C Roosevelt, 5C Jefferson, 1C Lincoln. Second case, 25C Washington State Quarters including Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Georgia and Rhode Island.
25C Washington, Rhode Island, PCGS# 679995.
117) 2012-S, US Mint American Eagle San Francisco, 75th Anniversary, Two-Coin Silver Proof Set.
1$ Walking Liberty, PCGS# 513095, Rev PR, DCAM.
1$ Walking Liberty, PCGS# 513093, Regular DCAM.
118) 2013-W, Walking Liberty, PCGS# 516925, DCAM, American Eagle, One Ounce Silver Proof coin.
119) 2014-W, Walking Liberty, PCGS# 523889, DCAM, American Eagle, One Ounce Silver Proof coin.
120) 2017-W, Walking Liberty, PCGS# 623784, DCAM, American Eagle, One Ounce Silver Proof coin.
121) 2018-W Walking Liberty, PCGS# 658181, DCAM, American Eagle, One Ounce Silver Proof coin.
122) 2019-W, Walking Liberty, PCGS# 691109, DCAM, American Eagle, One Ounce Silver Proof coin.
123) 2020-W, Walking Liberty, PCGS# ?809294, no “V75” privy mark, DCAM, American Eagle, One Ounce Silver Proof coin.
124) 1979, Susan B. Anthony, 3 coin set, in green envelope, “The 1979 Dollar Souvenir Set, in soft heat sealed plastic. PCGS# 9571, circulated, wide rim.
125) 1980, Susan B. Anthony, 3 coin set, in green envelope, “The 1980 Dollar Souvenir Set, in soft heat sealed plastic. PCGS# 9574, circulated, wide rim.
126) 1963, Treasury Department, white envelope, with “XXXXX” written on the front. Philadelphia Mint Set.
127) 1964, Treasury Department, white envelope. Philadelphia Mint Set.
128) 1965, Treasury Department, white envelope. Philadelphia Mint Set, I will highlight this pack, as there are some possible nice coins:
50C Kennedy Half Dollar, PCGS# 6708;
25C Washington, PCGS# 5878;
10C Roosevelt, PCGS# 5130, Full Band (FB).
5C Jefferson, PCGS# 4077.
1C Lincoln, PCGS# 2896, Red.
129) 2 x sets) 1969, white envelopes, Treasury Department, 1969 U.C.
130) 2 x sets) 1970 and 1970-D, white envelopes, Treasury Department, 1970 U.C.
131) 2 x sets) 1971 and 1971-D, white envelopes, Treasury Department, 1971 U.C.
132) 2 x sets) 1972 and 1972-D, white envelopes, Treasury Department, 1972 U.C.
133) 2 x pieces) 1971, Eisenhower Dollars, in the blue envelopes, Uncirculated Silver Dollar. PCGS# 7406. The set I have a purple piece of scrap paper in, and the second has no paper in it, and might be slightly better than the first one.
134) 1899 – 1999, Mount Rainier National Park.
135) 1871- 1971, British Columbia, in blue box, not PCGS# .
136) 2005, Kansas roll of 40 State Quarters, PCGS# 14040, here is the general breakdown of values: MS 61 = $3.00 (x 40 = $120); MS 65 = $5.00 (x 40 = $200); MS 66 = $12.00 (x 40 = $480); MS 67 = $75.00 (x 40 = $3,000), MS 68 – 3,150.00 x 40 = $126,000.00!).
137) 2005-D Kansas roll of 40 State Quarters, PCGS# 14041, MS 61 = $3.00 (x 40 = $120); MS 65 = $5.00 (x 40 = $ 200); MS 66 = $12.00 (x 40 = $480); MS 67 = $24.00 (x 40 = $960.00); MS 68 = $275.00 (x 40 = $11,000.00!).
138) 2007, Washington State roll of 40 State Quarters, PCGS# 39032, I have not opened them, so here is the general breakdown of values: MS 61 = $3.00 (x 40 = $120); MS 65 = $5.00 (x 40 = $200); MS 66 = $12.00 (x 40 = $480); MS 67 = $75.00 (x 40 = $3,000), MS 68 = $2,150.00 (x 40 = $86,000.00!).
139) 2007-D, Washington State roll of 40 State Quarters, PCGS# 39033, I have not opened them, so here is the general breakdown of values: MS 61 = $3.00 (x 40 = $120); MS 65 = $5.00 (x 40 = $200); MS 66 = $15.00 (x 40 = $600); MS 67 = $110.00 (x 40 = $4,400), MS 68 = $2,850.00 (x 40 = $114,000.00!).
140) Red “Lincoln Penny Album, from 1951.” There were two coins out of this group that might have importance, they are. The 1955-S, which has damage to it; and the 1964, but only if it is a provable SMS, otherwise it is worth very little. The 1955-S is refereed to as PMD = Post Mint Damage, and according to the folks I talked to through PCGS.
141) Blue “Warman's Lincoln Center, 1909 – 1959. There were three that may stand out. The 1909 VDB, the 1914,-S, error, which is missing the “4,” and the 1922-D, which may have a weak “D.”
The 1914-D, PCGS# 2425, with missing “4” in 1914.
The 1922-D, with a weak “D.” This is possibly a 1922-D Lincoln Die Part Two” coin, but I am not sure yet and am asking questions.
141A) 2014, Virginia, Shenandoah, America The Beautiful, Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin, United States Mint. PCGS#
141B) 2016, South Carolina, Fort Moultrie, America The Beautiful, Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin, United States Mint. PCGS#
141C) 2016, North Dakota, Theodore Roosevelt, America The Beautiful, Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin, United States Mint. PCGS#
141D) 2016, Kentucky, Cumberland Gap, America The Beautiful, Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin, United States Mint. PCGS#
141E) 2017, Iowa, Effigy Mounds, America The Beautiful, Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin, United States Mint. PCGS#
141F) 2017, Missouri, Ozark Riverways, America The Beautiful, Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin, United States Mint. PCGS#
141G) 2018, Michigan, Picture Rocks, America The Beautiful, Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin, United States Mint. PCGS#
141H) 1986-S, United States Liberty Coins x 2, Silver Dollar and Half Dollar Proofs, blue box, PCGS#
141I) 2016-W, United States Mint, American Eagle One Ounce Silver Proof Coin, PCGS #.
141J) 2016, 100th Anniversary of the National Park Service, Commemorative Coin Program, $1, PCGS#
141K) 2019-S, and , United States Mint, Silver Proof Set (1 box, 2 cases (case 1 has DCAM 1$ Sacajawea, 50C Kennedy, 10C Roosevelt, 5C Jefferson, 1C Lincoln. Case 2 has five DCAM Washington Quarters, including Massachusetts, Marianna Islands, Guam, Texas and Idaho), and one envelope with a 2019-W West Point Special Edition Lincoln Penny Collection DCAM (reverse) 1C.
141L) 2020-S, United States Mint, Silver Proof Set (1 box, 2 cases (case 1 has DCAM 1$ Sacajawea, 50C Kennedy, 10C Roosevelt, 5C Jefferson, 1C Lincoln. Case 2 has five DCAM Washington Quarters, including American Samoa, U.S. Virgin Islands, Connecticut, Vermont and Kansas).
141M) 1968-S United States Proof Set, in blue envelope/box, including one case of Mirror: 50C Kennedy, 25C Washington (with blue toning), 10C Roosevelt, 5C Jefferson, and 1C Lincoln.
141N) 1969-S United States Proof Set, in blue envelope/box, including one case of Mirror: 50C Kennedy, 25C Washington (with blue toning), 10C Roosevelt, 5C Jefferson, and 1C Lincoln.
141O) 1986-S United States Proof Coin Set, in maroon envelope/box, with one case including 50C Kennedy, 25C Washington, 10C Roosevelt, 5C Jefferson, and 1C Lincoln.
141P) 2 x sets, 1776-1976, United States Mint Silver Proof Set, DCAM, including, Eisenhower 1$, Kennedy 50C, and Washington 25C, in original packing.
141Q) APMEX, 2017, 1 oz. Silver Australasian Kookaburra/Elizabeth II, 1$, in original plastic case, ID# 102929.
141R) 1873-1973, RCMP, GCR, Elizabeth II/Mountie, Canadian 1$, with toning.
Troy ounce bars, tokens, foreign coins, etc...:
142) 10 troy ounce .999 fine silver, Scottsdale Silver Bar.
143) 5 troy ounce AMPEX .999 fine silver bar.
144) 1962, Seattle Worlds Fair/Century 21 Exposition $1.00 Token.
145) 1789 – 1797, Washington, 1st President Medal.
146) Ben Paris, Parking Lot 5 cent Trade Coin.
147) Washington State Sales Tax Token.
Paper Currency:
148) 1976, 3 pieces, Jefferson $2.00 Bill. KL# 1629, average, circulated.
149) 1976, 13 pieces, Jefferson $2.00 Bills. KL# 1629, average value for CH-CU Uncirculated.
150) 1953A, $2.00 Silver Certificate, Red Seal, circulated, KL# 1622.
151) 1953, $2.00 Silver Certificate, Red Seal, circulated, KL# 1621.
152) 1953A, $2.00 Silver Certificate, Red Seal, KL# 1622.
153) 1953C, $2.00 Silver Certificate, Red Seal, KL# 1624.
154) 1963, $2.00 Silver Certificate, Red Seal, KL# 1625.
155) 1963, $2.00 Silver Certificate, Red Seal, KL# 1626.
156) 1963, 2 pieces, $2.00 Silver Certificate, Red Seal, KL# 1625.
157) 1963, 2 pieces, $2.00 Silver Certificate, Red Seal, uncirculated, KL# 1625.
158) 1957, $1.00 Silver Certificated, Blue Seal, circulated, KL# 1462.
159) 1957, $1.00 Silver Certificate, Blue Seal, CH-CU, KL# 1462.
160) 1957, $1.00 Silver Certificate, Blue Seal, Uncirculated?, KL# 1462.
161) 1957B, $1.00 Silver Certificate, Blue Seal, KL# 1464.
162) February 17, 1864, $10.00, Confederate States of America, Richmond, Virginia, Hand Signed, Hand Numbered, SC# 68/SL# 69.
163) 100 Bolivianos, Villarroel.
Client # 2's coins, and stamps.
a) Two pieces, 1776-1976 Eisenhower Dollar (Ike Dollar), Type III.
b) 1971 D, Ike dollar. MG is
c) 1972, Type III, Ike dollar.
d) 1972 D, Ike dollar.
e) 1974 D, Ike dollar.
f) 1964, Kennedy Half Dollar.
g) Two pieces, 1967 Kennedy half.
h) 1962 D, Benjamin Franklin Half Dollar.
i) Fifty-one pieces, 1946 Booker T. Washington Half Dollars. I only took out the coins from one roll (the one in the manila envelope), so there could easily be an exceptional piece in this set of 51, but I want your permission before I open them all, in writing, that it is okay to do so. I DO think we should have you let me send off one example of the “best” and one of the “worst,” as all seem to be very good or better, in this set to be graded and encapsulated by PCGS, as the upside is very big! I graded the best, medium and worst of this roll of 17.
j) Roll of 40, 1948 D, Jefferson Nickles. I only took six out of the roll, as I do not want to damage the roll until you approve to do it or not in writing. There is a version of these called the “Full Step,” and I believe there is one from this set of 6 so far.
k) Mexico, 1 troy ounce silver coin.
l) Maria Theresia Thaler 1780 Austrian Empire coin, not a Brussels strike, but later (I believe).
m) Small Bronze Peace Metal, 1789.
n) Aug. 15, 1914, Panama Canal Opened S.S. Ancon, Official Souvenir/Panama California Exposition coin.
o) 1932 George V, Half Crown.
p) Nine pieces, 1918 George VI, One Penny.
q) Two pieces, 1971 Mexican Un Peso.
r) Two pieces, 1945 Mexican Cinco Centavos.
s) Two pieces, circa 1950, Japanese 10 yen bronze/copper coins.
t) George VI, 3 pence brass/bronze, octagonal rim.
u) 1989, Elizabeth the II (QEII), 20 pence, octagonal.
v) Three pieces, 1885/1990/1990, one penny.
w) George V, 1930 and 1932, six pence.
x) 1941, Norway, 5 Ore.
y) 2012, QEII, Canadian Dollar.
z) 1910, Edward VIII, one cent.
aa) 1959, Half Penny, with necklace hanging hole.
bb) 1933 – 1945, 32nd President, USA, Franklin Roosevelt Commemorative Token.
cc) 1920, Cuba, 40 centavos, medium relief star.
dd) 1932, USSR, 5 Kopek.
ee) 1987, Mauritania, 10 Ouguiya.
ff) 1946, Mexican, 10 centavos.
gg) 1936, Mexican 10 centavos.
hh) Incuse (stamped into the metal), 5Cent “W.* B.” trade token, may be silver.
ii) 1928, Italy, Vittorio Emanuele II, 10 centesimi.
jj) 1918, Italy, 20 centesimi, (worn).
kk) 1921 George V, six pence.
ll) 1941, George VI, six pence.
mm) 1961, QEII, maple leaf penny.
nn) 1943, Chile, 20 centavos.
oo) Regional Transportation District, Colorado Token.
pp) 1942, Norway, 10 Ore, very bad condition.
qq) National Wildlife Federation, metal stamp with dolphins on it.
a) 1926 issue, blue sheet, US Postage Air Mail, “First Zone,” 10 Cent, map of US and 2 biplanes facing each other. Mint sheet: $275.00. Single mint stamp, $4.95/each.
b) 1948, 1874 – 1949, US Air Mail, Globe and Doves, 15 cent stamp. Min sheet, $42.00. Single mint stamp, $0.90/each.
c) 1948, Red US Postage, Air Mail, 1898 City of New York 1948, 5 cent stamp. Mint sheet, $60.00, single mint stamp, $0.45/each.
d) 1749 – 1949, Alexandria Virginia Bicentennial, Carlyle House and Gadsby's House, 6 cent stamp. Mint sheet, $20.00, single mint stamp, $0.45/each.
e) 1946, grey/grey-green Air Mail, Pan-American Building, 10 cent stamp. Mint sheet, $30.00, single mint stamp, $0.70/each.
f) 1947, Green Air Mail, Statue of Liberty/new York Skyline, 15 cent stamp. Mint sheet, $50.00, single mint stamp, $1.00/each.
g) 1941, Purple, Air Mail, Transport Plane, 10 cent stamps. Mint sheet, $130.00, single mint stamp, $2.75/each.
h) 1941, Green, Air Mail, Transport Plane, 20 cent stamps. Mint sheet, $185.00, single mint stamp, $4.00/each.
i) 1941, Blue/blue-green, Air Mail, Transport Plane, 30 cent stamps. Mint sheet, $200.00, single mint stamp, $4.25/each.
j) 1946, Red, Air Mail, DC-4 Sky Master 5 cent stamps. Mint sheet, $20.00, single mint stamp, $0.40/each.
k) twelve pieces, Indian Art, four masks, 15 cent stamps. Block of 10, $9.00, single mint stamps, $3.50/each.
l) 1701 – 1951, blue, The Land of Cadillac at Detroit, 3 cent stamps. Block of four, $2.00.
m) 1876 – 1951, purple, 75th anniversary of Colorado statehood, 3 cent stamp. Block of four, $2.00.
n) 1846 – 1946, Henry Clay, Great Americans, 3 cent stamp. Mint stamp, $0.25.
o) Electric Auto 1917, 17 cent stamp. Mint stamp, $0.75.
p) Omnibus 1880;s Madison, purple on cream, 1 cent stamp. Mint stamp, $0.20.
q) 1949, red, GAR, Final National Encampment of the GAR, 3 cent stamp. Block of four, $2.00.
r) 1874 – 1974, purple, Utah Centennial, 3 cent stamp. Block of four, $2.00.
s) 1649 – 1949, Annapolis, Tercentenary, 3 cent stamp. Block of four, $2.25.
t) Maroon, Casey Jones, Honoring RR Engineers of American, 3 cent stamp. $2.00.
u) Red-brown, Boy Scouts of American, 3 cent stamp. Block of four, $3.50.
v) 1798 – 1948, maroon, Mississippi Territory, 3 cent stamp. Block of four, $2.00.
w) Maroon, The Doctor, 3 cent stamp. Block of four, $2.00.
x) 1848 – 1948, green, A century of friendship, United States – Canada, 3 cent stamp. Block of four, $2.10.
y) Benjamin West, 10 cent stamp. $0.50.
z) 1975, Paul Laurence Dunbar, 10 cent stamp. $0.55.
aa) 50th Anniversary Solo Transatlantic Flight, 13 cent stamp. $0.65.
bb) Thomas Jefferson, 1 cent stamp. $0.30.
cc) 1859 – 1959, Hawai'i Statehood, 20 cent stamp. $1.10.
dd) 1968, Oliver Wendell Homes, 15 cent stamp. $0.90.
ee) 1790 – 1945, green, US Coast Guard, 3 cent stamp. $0.50.
ff) 1847 – 1947, maroon, Joseph Pulitzer, 3 cent stamp. $0.50.
gg) 1846 – 1946, maroon, Kearny Expedition, 3 cent stamp. $0.40.
Holey Moley that’s a lot of typing
Good luck
Martin
@Martin, indeed! Lots, and lots of work behind that typing too! Funny! Thank you for the laugh, Greg.
Good heavens. Too much information is better than no information, but skimming that was like trying to drink from a fire hose!
Still, the basic info is there for someone who’s got time to help you go through the list. I’m at work right now, so that someone isn’t me, I’m afraid.
I saw a lot of modern stuff that doesn’t interest me much, except as bullion, where that applies.
Most of the World coins sound like the sort of things I used to sell in my 10/$1 or 3/$1 antique mall bins, though there could be exceptions (silver certainly is an exception).
I see you do have a smattering of US gold there- always good- and Morgan dollars, also good. There was mention of a peace medal and Panama Canal medal of some kind which sounded intriguing.
But sorry, I must go- only had time for a fast skim through all that.
@lordmarcovan, I was not sure how to do it to be frank. So, I figured it was best to just put the full list on. I forgot to delete the stamps I noticed... Yeah, well thank you for even looking at all! I can understand. Yes, the world coins are essentially nothing, I guess I could have deleted them off the original list...
I am going to post images of the Panama Canal coin, as it is in very good condition to the others I have seen in my searching. The Peace medal is a small one, which I had never seen before - only have seen the larger "common" ones.
Thank you for your input, Greg.
Aug. 15, 1914, Panama Canal Opened S.S. Ancon, Official Souvenir/Panama California Exposition coin... Maximum number I have seen for these was $300. The third pic includes a few of the other coins too that the dealer made an offer on. Thanks again, Greg.
post pics of 1861 $2.50 gold please
@miles_long, I have already done so, with all three, in this post: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1085092/okay-new-and-better-images-for-constructive-criticism-and-help-please-thank-you#latest
I’m interested in a few coins if you’re selling.
@johnny010, Feel free to ask. We have a bulk offer already, but the sale has not been conducted yet. Thank you, Greg.
That Panama Canal medal is cool! Love ol' Uncle Sam with the shovel, there!
@lordmarcovan, Yes! Nice one isn't it! Thank you and Happy Holidays, Greg.