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Grade revealed: 1878s Morgan grade?

PppPpp Posts: 517 ✭✭✭✭
edited December 4, 2022 1:11PM in U.S. Coin Forum

This coin was graded by ngc.
I took it out of a damaged slab.

I am considering sending it in to pcgs. I will send the ngc grade after I receive opinions/comments from forum members on this coin.

Thank you in advance.
Please note, I tried to capture the reflective surface of the coins field in the pictures.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a 63 possible PL but can't tell from photos

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  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 3, 2022 3:19PM

    I think the sizable gash on the cheek will limit this one to MS63, and without mirrors on the reverse, a PL designation is unlikely. NGC sometimes gives "stars" to one-sided PL coins like yours, so there's a chance at that happening. Luster and strike are great, but the contact marks on the obv hold this one back from gem.

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  • PppPpp Posts: 517 ✭✭✭✭

    Gumby1234: I tried a different angle for pictures.

  • Project NumismaticsProject Numismatics Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it’s an older NGC holder it might even have been a 62. I’ve got a few really NICE ones from this date/mm that only made that grade in the old “Fatty’s”.
    Nice coin there regardless! 62-63 is my guess.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say no PL but definitely a nice look to it.

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  • WilliamFWilliamF Posts: 831 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm going to be positive on this one and say it reached 64... I like it but it needs a little color.... ;)

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  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62

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  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks 63 to me.

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  • dunkleosteus430dunkleosteus430 Posts: 476 ✭✭✭✭

    MS-63 star from NGC.

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  • SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63 at best, which is a great coin!

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,398 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63 here.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a 63 to me.... so many marks and some on focal areas. Cheers, RickO

  • coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice one side PL. If it wasn't for the hit down Liberty's check you had a shot at 65. MS63

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ppp said:
    This coin was graded by ngc.
    I took it out of a damaged slab.

    I am considering sending it in to pcgs. I will send the ngc grade after I receive opinions/comments from forum members on this coin.

    Thank you in advance.
    Please note, I tried to capture the reflective surface of the coins field in the pictures.

    Based on the marks that show in the second image, my guess would be MS62.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would guess an average Unc; these issues, 78s come nice and it is very hard to get them to go PL or to grade gem unless they are really nice.

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it's MS 63. About a hundred bucks. That's my line for grading unless I think I could be being too conservative.

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • PppPpp Posts: 517 ✭✭✭✭

    Thank you for the comments.

    Ngc graded this coin ms64

    Unfortunately, my pictures do not show the coins reflective field well. In hand it reminds me of my 1887 pl and dmpl

    Bas3d on comments I decided not to send it in and use it in a trade.
    🙂

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No hairlines which is a big positive. These used to be cheaper but now are over $200 in MS64.

    On grading the coin, it has many positive attributes; no hairlines, the grazes are relatively inconspicuous not in grade sensitive areas. Without them it would probably be an MS66.

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