Home U.S. Coin Forum

Received PCGS Grades - Any Thoughts Regarding the Grades? 1909-O 50C, 1858 1C, 1864 1C


I just received these grades from PCGS: 1900-O 50C F12, 1858 1C XF40 and 1864 1C Copper VF35. No additional pictures because the coins are in the mail.

I'm not overjoyed with these grades, particularly the Barber. I'm not going to cry myself to sleep or anything but I would be interested in hearing any opinion about these grades. Please see the attached images.


P.S. I didn't realize just how dirty the Indian Cent was until I saw the PCGS scan.


  • Options
    1madman1madman Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lucky the cents didn’t bodybag

  • Options
    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks to be fair grades and that IHC is so dirty Im surprised they graded it.

    Successful BST with ad4400, Kccoin, lablover, pointfivezero, koynekwest, jwitten, coin22lover, HalfDimeDude, erwindoc, jyzskowsi, COINS MAKE CENTS, AlanSki, BryceM

  • Options
    fathomfathom Posts: 1,513 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would be pleased with those grades.

  • Options
    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dontknowmuchabout... Welcome aboard. Looking at the coins... and the grades, I would say they are accurate. You seem disappointed. You should study the grading resources available on this site, or in a Redbook. Definitely do some research. Good luck, coins are a great hobby, but there is much to learn. Cheers, RickO

  • Options
    291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,944 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coins are correctly graded by wear. The two cents would be better candidates for albums rather than slabs as they have dirt/corrosion issues.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • Options
    RampageRampage Posts: 9,418 ✭✭✭✭

    I, too, feel they are all accurately graded.

  • Options
    lusterloverlusterlover Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭✭

    It's your first post so welcome. I agree with everything said here. Grades are accurate and frankly you're lucky the 2 coppers straight graded.

  • Options

    I was looking for informed commentary, and that's what I received. Appreciate it. Cheers.

  • Options
    Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭✭✭

    IMO, the 1909-O Barber half is sort of a tweener ... F12 or F15. I think the reverse dictated the F12 final grade. Nice coin, regardless.

    I'm also a little surprised the 1858 FE straight graded. Anyway, thanks for sharing the pics/grades!


    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
  • Options
    DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My apologies . . . I did not notice it was a 'first post'. WELCOME . . . .and thanks for giving us a chance to look at those three . . .and render opinions. You will find a variety of opinions here . . . . but in most all cases, the thoughts are fair and honest . . .


  • Options
    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    welcome to the forum and nice first post.

    i think the barber would be sitting just as comfortable in a f15 holder. it has some small scratches but not to be unexpected for a coin in that condition and has a nice wholesome overall look. a quick look at photograde certainly wouldn't hurt. (with 2 of the 3 coins exhibiting what looks like pvc, personally, i'd dip the barber JUST to try and prevent any surprise green spots from appearing down the road)

    the eagle shouldn't have graded. green all over that coin. the green aside, a nice eagle cent. (some corrosion?)

    the indian. probably where it needs to be with all that crud. there is crusty and there is cruddy. a nice cent but could have used some tlc prior to encapsulation BUT there could be corrosion under the crud. it also has some green. (i've always liked the CN eagles and indians.

    you may want to pick up some pure acetone if you are going to be submitting coins like these in the future and really as a numismatist, dealing with pvc is just a way of life for the majority of us and some VERY simple care can and will help out many coins not just now but going into the future.

    look forward to your next sub!

    <--- look what's behind the mask! - cool link 1/NO ~ 2/NNP ~ 3/NNC ~ 4/CF ~ 5/PG ~ 6/Cert ~ 7/NGC 7a/NGC pop~ 8/NGCF ~ 9/HA archives ~ 10/PM ~ 11/NM ~ 12/ANACS cert ~ 13/ANACS pop - report fakes 1/ACEF ~ report fakes/thefts 1/NCIS - Numi-Classes SS ~ Bass ~ Transcribed Docs NNP - clashed coins - error training - V V mm styles -

  • Options
    kazkaz Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome to the forum! I always learn something from the comments in these threads.

  • Options
    davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,858 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If this was your first submission, you did better than me as most of mine were bodybags (problems they would not slab)

  • Options
    skier07skier07 Posts: 3,697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Welcome. This is a great place to learn. At times you need to have thick skin here but the advice and feedback is generally spot on.

    If you plan to submit more coins in the future I’d suggest posting them here before spending your money on grading.

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file