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1990 Cent with upside down date...Just came back from ANACS

KurisuKurisu Posts: 2,020 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 22, 2023 1:40PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Can I get a "technically correct" on the upside down date!? :blush:

Mostly sure it's authentic with my new found error knowledge(s).
But this thing is quite the beautiful mess.
Calling @FredWeinberg or @ErrorsOnCoins etc... please.




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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I haven't a clue on this one. Could be real? One thing that looks odd is the areas that look like they are melted.? Ill defer to the experts.

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  • KurisuKurisu Posts: 2,020 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    I haven't a clue on this one. Could be real? One thing that looks odd is the areas that look like they are melted.? Ill defer to the experts.

    I'm just really starting to get into and learn about errors after decades of collecting.

    I'll put myself out there with a guess...I'm feeling like this is a bonded pair and that partial cent wedged/jammed as the other fully struck cent didn't get totally ejected for whatever reason and then that partial was struck against the edge of the not quite ejected cent like 10 or 12 times causing the bonding.

    I'd love to understand this one...and know it's authentic of corse.

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  • goodmoney4badmoneygoodmoney4badmoney Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s double struck, the second is off center and uniface reverse (struck against another planchet). It also has some rim damage probably from a counting machine.

  • KurisuKurisu Posts: 2,020 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 25, 2022 8:58PM

    @goodmoney4badmoney said:
    It’s double struck, the second is off center and uniface reverse (struck against another planchet). It also has some rim damage probably from a counting machine.

    So you're thinking that's just one deformed coin, not 2, I can see that and have to agree.
    That second partial area is in fact extra thin.

    So...it didn't eject fully and flipped. Then struck partially again as another planchet launched in "underneath" it and it finally got out of there... that makes sense.

    Coins are Neato!

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  • KurisuKurisu Posts: 2,020 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 25, 2022 8:54PM

    @OAKSTAR said:
    First, is it yours? If so, where did you get it. My first thought and non-professional opinion is that it's real. I suppose there are counterfeit mint errors out there. I'm going to stick to my first guess and say it's real. We'll see what the big guns say.

    Also, it's got nothing to do with an upside down date. Here, I'll fix that for you. 😂 🤣

    Yes mine, took a few buck risk thinking my gut said it was authentic.
    Also I'm sort of hooked on errors suddenly lol.

    Coins are Neato!

    "If it's a penny for your thoughts and you put in your two cents worth, then someone...somewhere...is making a penny." - Steven Wright

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kurisu said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    First, is it yours? If so, where did you get it. My first thought and non-professional opinion is that it's real. I suppose there are counterfeit mint errors out there. I'm going to stick to my first guess and say it's real. We'll see what the big guns say.

    Also, it's got nothing to do with an upside down date. Here, I'll fix that for you. 😂 🤣

    Yes mine, took a few buck risk thinking my gut said it was authentic.
    Also I'm sort of hooked on errors suddenly lol.

    I was always intrigued by the major errors some of the guys have here. I believe you have a winner with this guy. 👍🏻 If I'm wrong, I'll apologize.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Double struck, unquestionably authentic. Also heavily damaged with minimal value, sorry,

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,804 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Please get that glorious mess into a holder. All that exposed zinc will go downhill fast when handled.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice looking error!

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations
    I too am delighted when another error is posted. It’s rather lovely. 😀

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks authentic to me... Nice acquisition.... The nice thing about major errors, they are one of a kind. Cheers, RickO

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    The nice thing about major errors, they are one of a kind. Cheers, RickO

    And we can actually see them without out our glasses or magnifying glass!

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Would it be advantageous to dip that zinc in something to retard corrosion? Before it goes into a holder. Peace Roy

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  • KurisuKurisu Posts: 2,020 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    Please get that glorious mess into a holder. All that exposed zinc will go downhill fast when handled.

    @Namvet69 said:
    Would it be advantageous to dip that zinc in something to retard corrosion? Before it goes into a holder. Peace Roy

    It was sent in a flip that was actually too small for it, part of it wasn't even showing in the flip's window.
    I took it out for moments to take pics and to put it in something larger.
    Did't treat it, just gave it a couple puffs of canned air from a distance.

    How it is now...

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the chaos alot. I guess getting it in the correct airtight is the best. Good luck and thanks for sharing one crazy cent. Peace Roy

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Excellent outcome. Peace Roy

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    OUTSTANDING!!! 👍🏻

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good thing the 2nd strike has no relevance to the overall grade achieved.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not sure why you are referring to it as an upside down date. The date is not upside down. The second strike is rotated.

  • KurisuKurisu Posts: 2,020 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    I'm not sure why you are referring to it as an upside down date. The date is not upside down. The second strike is rotated.

    Oh c'mon...see it through the eyes of a child...me :smiley:
    I'll be 54 in a month!

    Coins are Neato!

    "If it's a penny for your thoughts and you put in your two cents worth, then someone...somewhere...is making a penny." - Steven Wright

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kurisu said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    I'm not sure why you are referring to it as an upside down date. The date is not upside down. The second strike is rotated.

    Oh c'mon...see it through the eyes of a child...me :smiley:
    I'll be 54 in a month!

    Lol. Fair enough

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Keep in mind, you could have requested the coin be positioned in the holder any way you like.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭✭✭

    B) error coin

    2003-present
    1997-present

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,580 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's one that would be cool for the collection, I like 👍

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