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I've never seen an ANACS holder like this one.

leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭

    I have seen this label before. It was always a modern coin in this slab type.

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    1madman1madman Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Real

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    pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 25, 2022 12:52PM

    I may have been wrong ... my understanding is they were fake ... see posts below

    https://anacs.com/verify/

    EDIT: I think it was @JoeyCoins that got a couple in a dealer bargain bin and posted them here a couple months ago. One even had a pretty funny typo.


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    VasantiVasanti Posts: 448 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 25, 2022 9:32AM

    This looks kinda hinky.

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    leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 25, 2022 4:06PM

    Here's a list/website of the generations of holders for ANACS. Obviously, like most of the strikes on the coins in the top registry sets, they're not complete, lol What's missing is the large emblem capital A on the obverse but there are two on the reverse. And the slab itself looks so generic. I sent this website a headsup to see what they think.
    https://www.oldslabholders.com/post/anacs_slab_generations

    Leo

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    joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 14,869 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've had this same issue with a couple of ANACS holders I picked up not too long ago. Most people claimed these were the " T.V. gimmicks, but real.
    I had a thread on this very topic.
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    U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 5,609 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those are real and were most likely bulk deals for the TV coin selling shows.

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    BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,166 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pretty sure they are legit, used for mass gradings for HSN, QVC, and the like.

    There are chunks of the database that have weird data and don't show up... @cmerlo1 can sometimes sort things out.

    -----Burton
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    pointfivezeropointfivezero Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BStrauss3 has spoken. Nuff said.

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    BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,166 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 25, 2022 11:23AM

    Don't take my word, wait and see if Christian can find this in the database. That's the actually final word.

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    leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 25, 2022 4:09PM

    https://www.oldslabholders.com/post/anacs_slab_generations

    Also, I have no interest in buying that coin.

    Leo

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    leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 25, 2022 10:41PM

    I received a response from the oldslabholders website.
    I didn't add these to the list as they were not a regular holder used by ANACS. They were done for some overpriced late night TV coin sellers and magazine ad sellers at some point and were only used for modern coins as far as I know or have seen. They may be accurately graded but aren't worth any premium. They aren't really sought after and often go for less than regular holders.

    So I guess, this was a disasociation type of holder or maybe they were inbetween transitioning from the smaller holder to a larger holder. Or the seller made preference for a larger holder. hmmm
    And some of you were right in your responses.
    On another note; doesn't the holder look similar to.......the future CAC holder?

    Leo :)

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    VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 25, 2022 10:54PM

    @leothelyon said:

    On another note; doesn't the holder look similar to.......the future CAC holder?

    Leo :)

    Not to me. I've never been an ANACS fan (except for the old, small holders) and the ribbon thin label used on these, blue no less, does not look good or inspire confidence. The width to height ratio of the holder is also off.

    P.S. But it is genuine (forgot to add).

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    BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,166 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @leothelyon: Yep, 86Saab (or one of his other car identities or John D.) has done good work on the ANACS generations. He took Bob Paul's almost impossible-to-find work on the photo certs and just kept going and going and going! Both normal production slabs, and the much less known problem slabs.

    He also has PCGS, NCG, PCI decks.

    The best thing John brings to the table is his willingness to page through old auction records to find timelines. This has to predate that because there's an auction record of that label before the other was first seen.

    -----Burton
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    pointfivezeropointfivezero Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Couldn’t agree more about @86Saab, Burton. Also happens to be one of the nicest people on this forum.

    Tim

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    86Saab86Saab Posts: 202 ✭✭✭

    Thanks for the kind words @pointfivezero & @BStrauss3 , I appreciate it! As for this slab I'd like to have some idea of when they were made but I've seen nothing anywhere to indicate their production date. I'd assume someone who worked on them at ANACS would be one of the few to fill us in. @leothelyon I think the new CAC holders will be higher quality and is more aesthetically pleasing and as @VanHalen pointed out the ratio is different. I've had my hands on one of these and it just feels off in quality and size. It's never made any sense to me why ANACS went though the trouble of creating these "new" holders for this purpose. It's seems it would have been easier and less expensive to use their current holders with a different label instead.

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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,891 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BStrauss3 said:
    Pretty sure they are legit, used for mass gradings for HSN, QVC, and the like.

    There are chunks of the database that have weird data and don't show up... @cmerlo1 can sometimes sort things out.

    My reply on the other recent thread about these:

    This is correct- these slabs are ANACS slabs and are authentic. Like @BStrauss3 said, we use those for large bulk orders, mainly from TV companies. All of the major grading services do work for these companies. These bulk submissions are in a different system than the regular submissions (hence the odd-looking cert #'s), and this was definitely a challenge when I was coding the cert verification and pop report for the site. I'll forward a link to this post to my boss, @ANACSPAUL and maybe he can provide some more insight. We're also transitioning to a new website (you can see some of it at www.anacs.com) and I'm not sure if the cert verification and pop reports will be completely redone or just getting a newer, prettier UI with the same backend. Either way I'll look in the bulk DB and see if I can identify these certs and get them working in the lookup.

    The misspelling of 'authentic' is a mechanical error. No grade on the holder means the customer requested authentication only.

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