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Is this a major or minor variety? 1913 ty.1 buffalo nickel FS-1802??

BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭✭✭

Is this a major or minor variety? 1913 ty.1 buffalo nickel FS-1802??
I would call it minor but others will probably have different opinions

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would think its a minor variety.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is quite clearly a variety and so designated. I really have not entertained the 'minor/major' distinctions as considerations when collecting. If it interests me, I look for one, if not, I just pass. In this case, if a nice one showed up with a good price, I would likely add it. I should check my Buffs for that one, it could easily be overlooked. Cheers, RickO

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    VetterVetter Posts: 790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 24, 2022 6:22AM

    Considering there are other doubled dies in the series that are way more dramatic than this one. I would consider it minor. I’m sure it will have some premium but the number of collectors activity seeking it has to be low compared to the 16 DDO and 35 DDR.

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    1Bufffan1Bufffan Posts: 619 ✭✭✭

    If you were thinking of putting together a "set" of nickels with this Minor variety I think that it would be shorter than the Two Feather variety set, I would think that this would be a Minor Variety IMO. it's always up to the Collector what to include. As always have fun collecting and sharing with others.

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is certainly the most dramatic doubling on any 1913 Type 1 Buffalo.

    This variety is rather rare and commands over a thousand dollar price in MS64. Several have traded hands recently and the prices don't seem to be lessening at all.

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    I categorize Buffalo Nickel Varieties in 3 classes. 1) Major Varieties: The 8, such as the 16 DDO, 37 3 Leg, 36 3 1/2 leg, 18/7 D Overdate etc. 2) Regular Varieties: 1913 Ty 1 DDR FS 1802 is a good example as you show here and the varieties listed in Cherrypickers. They are also included in the PCGS Buffalo Nickel Complete Variety Set along with the 8 Major Varieties. 3) Minor Varieties: These are Varieties that are not yet recognized in Cherrypickers but are clearly Varieties still the same. PCGS will attribute them and put "Minor Variety" on the slab. They will have the same PCGS coin number as the Non Variety Coin so they can be substituted into the Complete Variety Set as I have done with my Complete Variety Set, The JDG Trust Collection.

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    BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As far as adding varieties of any kind, the 1918/7-d and the 1937-d 3 legger are often the only two added to a complete set
    which consists of 64 regular no-variety issues and then these two aforementioned issues. The more varieties added the more complicated the set gets. Also a third one to add would be the 1938-d d over s.

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    BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lunagately said:
    I categorize Buffalo Nickel Varieties in 3 classes. 1) Major Varieties: The 8, such as the 16 DDO, 37 3 Leg, 36 3 1/2 leg, 18/7 D Overdate etc. 2) Regular Varieties: 1913 Ty 1 DDR FS 1802 is a good example as you show here and the varieties listed in Cherrypickers. They are also included in the PCGS Buffalo Nickel Complete Variety Set along with the 8 Major Varieties. 3) Minor Varieties: These are Varieties that are not yet recognized in Cherrypickers but are clearly Varieties still the same. PCGS will attribute them and put "Minor Variety" on the slab. They will have the same PCGS coin number as the Non Variety Coin so they can be substituted into the Complete Variety Set as I have done with my Complete Variety Set, The JDG Trust Collection.

    Excellent information for all to have, thank you!

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 24, 2022 8:08PM

    it doesn't really answer your semi-rhetorical question but imo, it sure looks like a lot more is going on than just a ddr based on the closeup of the motto. perhaps a tdr or qdr?

    also, asking if it is major is kinda ambiguous since there aren't many different ddr buffs to begin with, let alone attributable ones at the motto, so in it's own right, any ddr buff can be considered major just because of scarcity and most vf/xf+ ddr buffs show enough of a premium that would indicate that many to consider them major (enough). ya know?

    from a class (class I, II etc) standpoint, not particularly.

    from a popularity/scarcity standpoint, quite major.

    enough with the semantic for now though, eh?

    edited to add: forgot the image.

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    it doesn't really answer your semi-rhetorical question but imo, it sure looks like a lot more is going on than just a ddr based on the closeup of the motto. perhaps a tdr or qdr?

    also, asking if it is major is kinda ambiguous since there aren't many different ddr buffs to begin with, let alone attributable ones at the motto, so in it's own right, any ddr buff can be considered major just because of scarcity and most vf/xf+ ddr buffs show enough of a premium that would indicate that many to consider them major (enough). ya know?

    from a class (class I, II etc) standpoint, not particularly.

    from a popularity/scarcity standpoint, quite major.

    enough with the semantic for now though, eh?

    edited to add: forgot the image.

    Lance, I’ve had the pleasure of owning several examples of this particular DDR. I can confirm that it is simply doubled, not tripled or other. I agree with you on all of your points, great post!

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