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Pretty Toned Gold Dollar!

RLSnapperRLSnapper Posts: 521 ✭✭✭✭✭



I collect Large Cents and have a couple of nicely toned examples. I am thinking about starting a Gold Dollar Type Set. The coins would be pretty toned ones like this one. I have no experience with gold coins at all. Any opinions about this coin would be greatly appreciated.

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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 9,959 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 23, 2022 10:30PM

    Gold is good. 👍🏻 There is something going on there in the field in front of the face...and the fields in general. Still, gold is good. There are a few forumites here who collect toned gold, too.

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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This coin reminds me of something that may have had iodine put onto the surfaces or putty to hide something. Obviously, I am only seeing a pair of images, but I would be concerned.

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    This coin reminds me of something that may have had iodine put onto the surfaces or putty to hide something. Obviously, I am only seeing a pair of images, but I would be concerned.

    I concur. Puttied coins often get this "look" over time. However, I could be wrong.

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    CladiatorCladiator Posts: 17,919 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My first thought was putty.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,053 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess is putty, as well.

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,818 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All the above.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I immediately thought 'putty'.... That is a coin I would pass up.... Gold does not tarnish... alloyed metals, such as copper or silver will tarnish, but that does not look like tarnish. Cheers, RickO

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld ... Mark, I agree that tarnish does appear on gold coins... my point is that gold does not tarnish, it is the alloy in the gold that tarnishes. Cheers, RickO

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agree with everyone above. Looks like putty. BTW, a nice patina and putty can exist on the same coin.

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    olympicsosolympicsos Posts: 697 ✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @ricko said:
    I immediately thought 'putty'.... That is a coin I would pass up.... Gold does not tarnish... alloyed metals, such as copper or silver will tarnish, but that does not look like tarnish. Cheers, RickO

    While classic gold coinage is far less likely to display “tarnish” than copper, silver and nickel, those who have seen and handled toned gold coins will disagree with you. Due to their 90% gold, 10% copper mixture (and in some cases, impurities), gold coins can “tarnish”. Over the years, quite a few examples have been posted here.

    The difference is that spots like copper spots on gold help show that the surfaces are original.

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,150 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BryceM said:
    Agree with everyone above. Looks like putty. BTW, a nice patina and putty can exist on the same coin.

    I was thinking the same thing, and wondering if the putty can be removed without ruining the patina? I’m guessing it would be difficult, but thinking if it was possible, that would be just the ticket for this coin.

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My understanding is that putty is generally very easy to remove. A simple dip in acetone should do the trick. This would not affect the patina in any significant way. It probably would uncover lots of surface issues.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with @BryceM... You may not like what the putty is concealing... However, if it were my coin, I would remove the putty and live with the coin as it is. Cheers, RickO

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd leave it alone and keep it in the PCGS slab. Putty or not, I like that yellow toning. B)

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    VasantiVasanti Posts: 448 ✭✭✭✭

    I wonder what would happen if it was sent in for conservation.

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,768 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am not a fan of either coin myself.

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    Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,360 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not really a gold guy, but I personally like it as-is Pretty cool. I wouldn't mess with it at all.

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    DeplorableDanDeplorableDan Posts: 2,539 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m in agreement with the others that this one appears to have had work done to it, Pass. The second one is a little bit dark for my taste.

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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 16,863 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 26, 2022 10:20AM

    Here's an 1850 example I used to own.

    Got similar toning areas as the OP, but does not appear to be puttied.

    Found the TrueView image.

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RLSnapper said:

    Here's another one. This is heavily toned. I like it! Opinions?

    This used to be mine! I was the original submitter. Good to see it again.

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,815 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 26, 2022 9:26PM

    To me the surfaces look off. This could be either the surfaces were messed with, or it's a nicely toned little gold coin with terrible pics. If it's raw why not remove it from the plastic before imaging it?

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    P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 2,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 27, 2022 5:01AM

    @RLSnapper said:

    Here's another one. This is heavily toned. I like it! Opinions?



    This 1853 is pretty neat, I dig it. It’s not a common look at all, so it’ll be polarizing, but it’s fun to own uniquely toned coins.

    Since we’re posting toned gold dollars here, I have one to share as well—it doesn’t fit in any of my sets, but I just had to have this one when I saw the orange and pink color.


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    liefgoldliefgold Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is one of the same date, 1857, with nice toning. I have noticed that this date tends to have a lot of toners.


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