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Do you think the Eagles are a fraud?

doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

Someone posted this online, what do you think, are the Eagles the real deal this year or frauds?

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    MaywoodMaywood Posts: 1,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No.

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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,531 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 22, 2022 8:07AM

    Nope, every team is entitled to losing a game

    The schedule might not be in favor of them beating top tier teams but beating them is what great teams do

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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,795 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No, but they will be playing a team this week that is a fraud, yep, you guessed it.

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    thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That graphic makes them sound worse than it should. But I'm not as sure as the above posters.

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    DarinDarin Posts: 6,332 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No, but I don’t think they will be nfc champion

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Darin said:
    No, but I don’t think they will be nfc champion

    You got that right.

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    HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 22, 2022 1:08PM

    @Darin said:
    No, but I don’t think they will be nfc champion

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hydrant said:

    @Darin said:
    No, but I don’t think they will be nfc champion

    Niners......Mccaffrey, Jimmy, and George.....All The Way Baby....



    NFC CHAMPS

    No way, my Cowboys are winning the NFC, Jimmy G will be on vacation in Mexico come Super Bowl time, asta la vista baby!

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    HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 22, 2022 2:15PM

    Hey, DD.....What goes around comes around....

    Kansas City Chiefs fan at Rams/Chiefs game,...2018...Rams Win 54-51....

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    The Fans Go Nuts.....

    So yea,.....

    Except Jimmy won't be in Mexico ......He'll be in Phoenix......El Norte!
    I'll Be There......BRING ON THE CHIEFS!!!!
    I Can't Wait!!

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hydrant said:
    Hey, DD.....What goes around comes around....

    Kansas City Chiefs fan at Rams/Chiefs game,...2018...Rams Win 54-51....

    Half Time and During Game Entertainment At SoFi.....


    So yea,.....

    Except Jimmy won't be in Mexico ......He'll be in Phoenix......
    I'll Be There......BRING ON THE CHIEFS!!!!
    I Can't Wait!!

    Ole!

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No, but I think they are in a mid season slump. All teams, except the 1972 Dolphins who had an easier schedule, have them. Buffalo have had a mid season slump too. The 2008 Patriots had their slump at the end of the season.

    I hope the pull out of it.

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    Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard for a fraud to be 9-1. Maybe some backlash here but including Minnesota - And maybe Buffalo - they just have not been real sharp lately.

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    thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hydrant said:

    @Darin said:
    No, but I don’t think they will be nfc champion

    Niners......Mccaffrey, Jimmy, and George.....All The Way Baby....



    NFC CHAMPS

    .....

    no disrespect

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    BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 8,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Frauds? Not really. Regardless of a soft (?) schedule they still had to go out and beat those teams. Seen many games where a good team plays down to a poorer team. Complacent. The 8-0 start got all the attention. Along comes a loss then the talk of a possible meltdown surfaces. If they started 3-0 then the loss then win the next 5 maybe would not have garnered so much concern. Meaning the 8-0 start got hyped. Remember this is the NFLP:Nat. Football League PARITY.

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    2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,252 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not frauds, just untested. We’ll see if they can compete in January. The NFC East has a history of easy schedules and one and done.
    I rather my team play a 1st place schedule, be tested every week and enter the playoffs 13-4. They’ve played the best so it’s not a surprise.
    We’ll see how they hold up soon enough

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    galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 23, 2022 8:41AM

    A tinge fraudulent. Two weeks in a row they should have lost to (at the time) sub-.500 teams. The only reason they escaped the Colts is because Indy sucks and doesn't know how to put teams to sleep when they have the opportunity. If you're supposedly the best a conference has to offer, you should not be finding yourself in that position. The Eagles are the type of #1 seed that could get bounced in the divisional round if they run into a surging team that can match up well with them.

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    spacehaydukespacehayduke Posts: 5,478 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Niners are winning the NFC, seems like the old days are back. 'boys will lose in the NFC round 1 playoffs, something is bound to happen well bc they are the 'boys. Vikings will choke somehow as well, bc they have Cousins at qb, it is destined. Eagles? Good point as they have not played anyone so we will see.................

    Maybe TB has a surge with their qb who chose a smelly locker room over family after being GOAT with nothing left to prove? Not.


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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Having a team so dependent on a running QB is unsustainable. The timeline of that is quite unpredictable.

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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,531 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 28, 2022 7:32AM

    @thisistheshow said:
    Having a team so dependent on a running QB is unsustainable. The timeline of that is quite unpredictable.

    I disagree, mobile QB's are being bred in the college game now, I'm not saying it's going to be run first style but guys that can be two dimensional are going to continue to be what teams are looking for.

    Burrow
    Hurts
    Lawrence

    All these guys are capable of running if necessary and the top college prospects at QB are just like these guys

    Edit to add, a guy like Mac Jones who is not very mobile stands probably a greater chance of getting hurt not being able to efficiently escape when the line is collapsing all around him and taking awkward tackles over running and sliding to give yourself up ect..

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    thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @thisistheshow said:
    Having a team so dependent on a running QB is unsustainable. The timeline of that is quite unpredictable.

    I disagree, mobile QB's are being bred in the college game now, I'm not saying it's going to be run first style but guys that can be two dimensional are going to continue to be what teams are looking for.

    Burrow
    Hurts
    Lawrence

    All these guys are capable of running if necessary and the top college prospects at QB are just like these guys

    Edit to add, a guy like Mac Jones who is not very mobile stands probably a greater chance of getting hurt not being able to efficiently escape when the line is collapsing all around him and taking awkward tackles over running and sliding to give yourself up etc..

    ....
    I see your point, and it is a good one. Mobile QBs are the norm, not the exception, as far as top picks go.

    But the way the Eagles look, to me, is as if they are over-dependent on Hurts running. If he is injured in a way which slows him down, doesn't he regress to a below average quarterback? Isn't his personal game, as a QB, too dependent on his legs?

    Not every "mobile" QB would fit this description. I don't see Burrow or Lawrence as being in the same category. They look as though they could excel as more traditional QBs.

    As for Mac Jones, he is a bit of a statue. He seems to possess some pocket instinct, but really would need to develop that.

    In regard to QBs who are strictly pocket passers, Brady never gets hurt and it is because he knows how to move within the pocket, and he knows when to go down and how to go down. I know I have posted this before, but I like to post it as a reminder....Belichick told Brady post game, and I am paraphrasing, "if you want a long career don't do that". Brady learned from this, it was during the regular season his first year as a starter. I also show this to anyone who says Brady isn't tough...but that's an entire different thread (and we have a lot of those already, lol). https://youtu.be/WqTmz_-scYA

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    perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,531 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 28, 2022 9:37AM

    @thisistheshow said:

    @perkdog said:

    @thisistheshow said:
    Having a team so dependent on a running QB is unsustainable. The timeline of that is quite unpredictable.

    I disagree, mobile QB's are being bred in the college game now, I'm not saying it's going to be run first style but guys that can be two dimensional are going to continue to be what teams are looking for.

    Burrow
    Hurts
    Lawrence

    All these guys are capable of running if necessary and the top college prospects at QB are just like these guys

    Edit to add, a guy like Mac Jones who is not very mobile stands probably a greater chance of getting hurt not being able to efficiently escape when the line is collapsing all around him and taking awkward tackles over running and sliding to give yourself up etc..

    ....
    I see your point, and it is a good one. Mobile QBs are the norm, not the exception, as far as top picks go.

    But the way the Eagles look, to me, is as if they are over-dependent on Hurts running. If he is injured in a way which slows him down, doesn't he regress to a below average quarterback? Isn't his personal game, as a QB, too dependent on his legs?

    Not every "mobile" QB would fit this description. I don't see Burrow or Lawrence as being in the same category. They look as though they could excel as more traditional QBs.

    As for Mac Jones, he is a bit of a statue. He seems to possess some pocket instinct, but really would need to develop that.

    In regard to QBs who are strictly pocket passers, Brady never gets hurt and it is because he knows how to move within the pocket, and he knows when to go down and how to go down. I know I have posted this before, but I like to post it as a reminder....Belichick told Brady post game, and I am paraphrasing, "if you want a long career don't do that". Brady learned from this, it was during the regular season his first year as a starter. I also show this to anyone who says Brady isn't tough...but that's an entire different thread (and we have a lot of those already, lol). https://youtu.be/WqTmz_-scYA

    I see where your coming from, I haven't watched enough of Hurts to say one way or another if his throwing is sub par or not, but Lamar Jackson has stayed pretty healthy and he us definitely a better runner than Passer, Burrow and Lawrence probably are more complete passers as you suggested

    Idk I think smart running QB's have a place in the game more now than before

    Look at the top 3 QB prospects in College, all 3 guys are pretty much Jalen Hurts type guys

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