Home U.S. Coin Forum

Henning nickel slabbed?

Russell12Russell12 Posts: 260 ✭✭✭✭
edited November 17, 2022 12:10PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I just bought a 1944 Henning Nickel and would like to get it slabbed. Anyone know which of the companies will slab it?

Comments

  • JWPJWP Posts: 23,723 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's photos of a graded one by ICG. This Henning nickel was already graded when I bought it. I wouldn't hesitate to have one graded.


    USN & USAF retired 1971-1993
    Successful Transactions with more than 100 Members

  • hfjacintohfjacinto Posts: 880 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ICG will slab it for you. You have to select "Token" when getting slabbed . Here is mine.


  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,473 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 17, 2022 1:45PM

    What does this say about the coin grading company giving fanfare, recognition, nobility to a counterfeitor, thief, criminal who tried to commit fraud to our country and fellow man? To someone who went into great lengths to deceive his fellow man. It's not a U. S. Mint product! What a crock of ----! Toss that thing, slab and all into the trash because that is what it is!

    Leo

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

  • Project NumismaticsProject Numismatics Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @leothelyon said:
    What does this say about the coin grading company giving fanfare, recognition, nobility to a counterfeitor, thief, criminal who tried to commit fraud to our country and fellow man? To someone who went into great lengths to deceive his fellow man. It's not a U. S. Mint product! What a crock of ----! Toss that thing, slab and all into the trash because that is what it is!

    Leo

    Contemporary counterfeits are quite collectable. It’s not an endorsement of counterfeiters.

    Not much different than collecting historical items from criminals, scoundrels, politicians or others whose actions and views you don’t agree with - it’s still historic.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I collect and preserve numismatic history. Hennings nickels are part of that history.

    I didn't tell Henning to counterfeit nickels and if he had asked my opinion I would have told him not to do it. But, he went ahead and did it anyway.

  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,473 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ICG doesn't even bother to note it's a counterfeit. Huge problem right there. Someone manages to make cast copies of a US coin and duplicates those images, images of a US Mint product onto a homemade chunk of metal and people think that's notable/collectable? I don't understand why anyone would give reverence to such a fake thing. History of what? A criminal act? I don't see the lure nor excitment of the matter Nonsense is what it is. Sorry!

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,732 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 17, 2022 3:51PM

    @leothelyon said:
    What does this say about the coin grading company giving fanfare, recognition, nobility to a counterfeitor, thief, criminal who tried to commit fraud to our country and fellow man? To someone who went into great lengths to deceive his fellow man. It's not a U. S. Mint product! What a crock of ----! Toss that thing, slab and all into the trash because that is what it is!

    Leo

    Oh, you must also be referring to something like this "REAL" mint error. How much did it sell for?

    In my opinion, at least the Henning nickel was eventually and honestly identified as a counterfeit and not a man-made scam like this nail dime made by the United States Mint! Then on top of that............graded by who??

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,732 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @leothelyon said:
    ICG doesn't even bother to note it's a counterfeit.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @leothelyon said:
    ICG doesn't even bother to note it's a counterfeit. Huge problem right there.

    Wrong. Did you bother to read the dozens of words printed across the label on both sides? They say "fake" in several different languages. And their yellow label is unique to counterfeit coins.

    Someone manages to make cast copies of a US coin...

    Henning coins were struck, not cast.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,732 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:

    @leothelyon said:
    ICG doesn't even bother to note it's a counterfeit. Huge problem right there.

    Wrong. Did you bother to read the dozens of words printed across the label on both sides? They say "fake" in several different languages. And their yellow label is unique to counterfeit coins.

    Someone manages to make cast copies of a US coin...

    Henning coins were struck, not cast.

    Yes, nuff said! They are all real genuine fake counterfeits!! 😂 🤣

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • hfjacintohfjacinto Posts: 880 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @leothelyon said:
    ICG doesn't even bother to note it's a counterfeit.

    Well… I can tell reading comprehension isn’t one of your strong suits. Coupled with offering an opinion that’s just wrong.

    The top of the ICG slab has the words fake/falsification written in several languages. But it takes some reading skills to understand that. I believe a 5th grader might understand.

    When your comprehension skills catch up, please offer a valid and meaningful opinion.

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @leothelyon said: What does this say about the coin grading company giving fanfare, recognition, nobility to a counterfeitor, thief, criminal who tried to commit fraud to our country and fellow man? To someone who went into great lengths to deceive his fellow man. It's not a U. S. Mint product! What a crock of ----! Toss that thing, slab and all into the trash because that is what it is!

    ICG doesn't even bother to note it's a counterfeit. Huge problem right there.

    Leo, get a grip!! The one slab says "counterfeit" underneath the grade and they both have the insert printed with "fake" in several languages. If that's not enough to inform someone then they may need some help. What else should ICG do to help us??

  • hfjacintohfjacinto Posts: 880 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @leothelyon

    Yep a real grading companies like PCGS would never slab something so silly as a Henning nickel.

    But a real grading company like PCGS will slab crickets

    Yep but nothing silly like a Henning nickel.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The guy is welcome to make his opinion. I kinda don't think that it's necessary to comment about the way his post was presented.

    The guy doesn't like slabbed, counterfeit stuff. I can understand that, and understand his opinion on the subject.

    All and all it's just another coin in the wall................

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • hfjacintohfjacinto Posts: 880 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The guy collects nickels. They aren’t even PM. If he can critique our posts we can critique his.

  • Russell12Russell12 Posts: 260 ✭✭✭✭

    pictures


  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,732 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice! Thanks for posting.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • hfjacintohfjacinto Posts: 880 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 17, 2022 6:25PM

    Nice Henning. Looks VG8/10, the scratch will probably detail it, but majority I see are details. Hard to find one straight graded. I would keep it in acetone for a little to remove the black smudge around 3 o clock on the reverse.

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Remember, all Henning nickels (even ones that never circulated) are struck from dies Henning copied from worn host coins. He did that to make them look like any other pocket change.
    So, you'll never find a pristine Henning nickel. By their very nature they were born looking VF at best

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,732 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here are mine.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,473 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 17, 2022 10:12PM

    @Maywood said:
    @leothelyon said: What does this say about the coin grading company giving fanfare, recognition, nobility to a counterfeitor, thief, criminal who tried to commit fraud to our country and fellow man? To someone who went into great lengths to deceive his fellow man. It's not a U. S. Mint product! What a crock of ----! Toss that thing, slab and all into the trash because that is what it is!

    ICG doesn't even bother to note it's a counterfeit. Huge problem right there.

    Leo, get a grip!! The one slab says "counterfeit" underneath the grade and they both have the insert printed with "fake" in several languages. If that's not enough to inform someone then they may need some help. What else should ICG do to help us??

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @leothelyon said:
    What does this say about the coin grading company giving fanfare, recognition, nobility to a counterfeitor, thief, criminal who tried to commit fraud to our country and fellow man? To someone who went into great lengths to deceive his fellow man. It's not a U. S. Mint product! What a crock of ----! Toss that thing, slab and all into the trash because that is what it is!

    Leo

    Oh, you must also be referring to something like this "REAL" mint error. How much did it sell for?

    In my opinion, at least the Henning nickel was eventually and honestly identified as a counterfeit and not a man-made scam like this nail dime made by the United States Mint! Then on top of that............graded by who??

    I never understood this one either. Weren't there a number of these that came out? If there were just one made, sure, accidental. At least made with real dies, right?
    Isn't one of the very first acts by a coin grading company before they issue a grade is to determine whether the item is genuine or not? And so...they issure a grade on a copy off homemade cast dies......how does/can anyone compare its grade to a real genuine US Minted piece? Much ado about nothing! But collect what you like.
    Sure, I didn't read/see the small light print in the background of the label. I haven't spent a lot of time reading what's back there. It's usually the company's logo. lol I was looking for the word, "counterfeit" with all the other bold black print. And since I missed it, I suspect others will to.
    Haven't ever come across one of these so I can't sincerily say, I turned one down when offered.

    Leo
    To add; Just saw there are 8 for sale on ebay. But how would you know if any of the were the real mckoys? So maybe this is the reason.........

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

    My Jefferson Nickel Collection

  • Russell12Russell12 Posts: 260 ✭✭✭✭

    someone suggested i put it in acetone to remove the black mark on the reverse, is that a good idea?

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :)

  • oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭✭✭

    BTW IGC was the only company that would grade and slab my contemporary counterfeit GIII half penny. These are a significant part of our colonial numismatic history and I wanted it slabbed to include in my colonial type set, along with numerous other counterfeits from Machin's Mills, etc. (which the other services are of course eager to slab). Thanks IGC.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,732 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Russell12 said:
    someone suggested i put it in acetone to remove the black mark on the reverse, is that a good idea?

    It wouldn't hurt to try but it looks like that stain is baked into the surface of the coin. If you do, let's see the after results.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Henning nickels are a significant part of numismatic history, so, though fakes, I can see encapsulating them for posterity and interest. Cheers, RickO

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file