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Half cent lovers, here's a scratched beauty to attribute, should you wish.

jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

1805 Draped Bust Half Cent. Nice strike but unfortunately scratched out of meaness or boredom. Give me your attributions if you would.
Jim


When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

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  • OmegaraptorOmegaraptor Posts: 540 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 15, 2022 10:48PM

    1805, Large 5, Cohen-4, R-2.

    Nice coin. It does help that half cents simply didn't use as many dies as large cents (as they just didn't strike as many coins).

    "You can't get just one gun." "You can't get just one tattoo." "You can't get just one 1796 Draped Bust Large Cent."

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Always love the classic @jesbroken ❤️ I see no meanness but decades of sweet memories

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Always sad to see what happens to some of these old coins. However, they were created for commerce and not for collectors..... So we take them as they come. Cheers, RickO

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    kinda looks like graffiti

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Omegaraptor not a C-4...the 5 does not touch the bust.
    The C-2 does not touch the base, but does not have the leaf covering the base of the T in Cent
    The C-1 obviously does not have stems.
    It is a C-3 as the 5 does not touch the bust and the leaf covers the base of the T in CENT.
    Jim

    C-4

    C-3 as shown


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
  • NeophyteNumismatistNeophyteNumismatist Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This one confuses me. The die crack through the one is a C-4 marker, and and the spike under the chin is another. The bulge in front of the face of the C-3 does not appear to be present (but I would prefer to judge that in-hand). The reverse of the C-3 and C-4 are made from the same dies, so we get nothing there.

    Could this be a C-4 with a modified 5?

    I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 16, 2022 5:44PM

    I see what you are saying, but yet here is another diagnostic missing from my coin that is evident on a C-4. Perhaps mine is a counterfeit with mixed areas. Gosh, I hope not. I hope @MrHalfcent checks in.
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is a die marker for 1805 C-4 reverse as well:

    My examples' 5s don't actually touch the bust either...

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 17, 2022 11:40AM

    @burfle23 said:
    This is a die marker for 1805 C-4 reverse as well:

    My examples' 5s don't actually touch the bust either...

    As does the C-3 with the same Diagnostic.
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
  • OmegaraptorOmegaraptor Posts: 540 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 17, 2022 12:22PM

    @ricko said:
    Always sad to see what happens to some of these old coins. However, they were created for commerce and not for collectors..... So we take them as they come. Cheers, RickO

    Another way of looking at it... Any half cent or large cent from this time period beat very tough odds to be in collectors' hands today. For every 1000 half cents struck, on average, maybe five or six have survived. The other 995? Melted during the War of 1812, melted by the Mint 1857-1890, fell out of pockets, fell underneath a floorboard, dropped in the dirt and yet to be recovered, etc. I'm not sad it got scratched so much as I'm glad it survived at all and us collectors today can still enjoy it.

    "You can't get just one gun." "You can't get just one tattoo." "You can't get just one 1796 Draped Bust Large Cent."

  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 17, 2022 4:03PM

    Still see C4! The "tip" of the 5 to the bust gets faint but to my eyes still there...

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,130 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it is a C-4, then that is what it is, I just hope it's not a counterfeit.
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 18, 2022 5:32AM

    Pretty sure it is not counterfeit; matches diagnostics of a genuine one and not the diagnostics of the known counterfeit ones!

  • maymay Posts: 1,590 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Aww nice! I only have one, but somebody took their angry out on poor Lady Liberty!

    Type collector, mainly into Seated. -formerly Ownerofawheatiehorde. Good BST transactions with: mirabela, OKCC, MICHAELDIXON, Gerard

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