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  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    oh boy, he is really bad at being a QB

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • 1948_Swell_Robinson1948_Swell_Robinson Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2dueces said:
    Great first quarter for Fields
    11-22 99 yards 47 rushing

    Wait
    , what? Whisper in my ear. Those are game totals?

    Never mind

    Half of those yards were in pure garbage time at the end of the game. His real stat line should read 49 yards passing. He was 6 of 15 before that too. A good batting average, but not so good for a modern NFL QB.

  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,211 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1948_Swell_Robinson said:

    @2dueces said:
    Great first quarter for Fields
    11-22 99 yards 47 rushing

    Wait
    , what? Whisper in my ear. Those are game totals?

    Never mind

    Half of those yards were in pure garbage time at the end of the game. His real stat line should read 49 yards passing. He was 6 of 15 before that too. A good batting average, but not so good for a modern NFL QB.

    Good performance by the chiefs secondary. Of course not much of a test going against Fields. His receivers sucked also.

  • 1948_Swell_Robinson1948_Swell_Robinson Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Darin said:

    @1948_Swell_Robinson said:

    @2dueces said:
    Great first quarter for Fields
    11-22 99 yards 47 rushing

    Wait
    , what? Whisper in my ear. Those are game totals?

    Never mind

    Half of those yards were in pure garbage time at the end of the game. His real stat line should read 49 yards passing. He was 6 of 15 before that too. A good batting average, but not so good for a modern NFL QB.


    Good performance by the chiefs secondary. Of course not much of a test going against Fields. His receivers sucked also.

    The Chiefs and Bears were playing a different sport than each other yesterday.

  • GroceryRackPackGroceryRackPack Posts: 3,338 ✭✭✭✭✭


    :)

  • fergie23fergie23 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭✭

    Needed Claypool to get 25 yard receiving to win a $900 parlay, after the 15 yard catch on the first play of their first drive thought I was golden...apparently not.

    For all the people saying coaching hurts Fields, I would say, not being able to see and process the defense quickly and not being able to throw the ball accurately hurts him way more. It doesn't really make sense that someone that played so well in college is so terrible as a pro, but I guess the leap from college to NFL for a quarterback is something else.

    Robb

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fergie23 said:

    For all the people saying coaching hurts Fields, I would say, not being able to see and process the defense quickly and not being able to throw the ball accurately hurts him way more. It doesn't really make sense that someone that played so well in college is so terrible as a pro, but I guess the leap from college to NFL for a quarterback is something else.

    Robb

    i agree it makes no sense, but it happens more often than one might think. the skill sets that some of these guys manifest in college just never mesh well with the elevated speed of the NFL. for whatever reason, it just doesn't translate. the first guy that comes to my mind is Akili Smith. in fact, i just looked up his numbers. dude was drafted third overall, then in his entire NFL career he threw for roughly half as many yards as he did in his senior year at Oregon. and if you want another modern-day player, watch an entire game with Zach Wilson playing quarterback. you'll be saying "wtf were the Jets thinking" for four quarters.

    sorry about your busted parlay..............Claypool was just another in a long line of acquisitional catastrophes by the Bears

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • BrickBrick Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Most high draft pick QBs played on top college teams, Surrounded by better talent than most of their opponents. They go early in the draft to teams that for a better word...SUCK. They would be better served sitting on the bench in year one. Learning and also allowing the team to draft wisely the next year to give the QB weapons or protection. However now they seem to be thrown into the fire immediately where they develop happy feet and throw ill advised passes or get knocked on their butt. Soon they lose confidence. It generally goes downhill from there.

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  • fergie23fergie23 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭✭

    galaxy - Only $10 in the end but I really thought it was a lock after that first play of the game for the Bears offense, lol.

    Yeah, long line of QBs that were amazing in college but are inept as pros. I used to think it was mostly an accuracy thing (the great QBs have ridiculous accuracy) when transitioning from college to the pros but seems like anticipating throwing windows and players getting open is just as big a part.

    Robb

  • 1948_Swell_Robinson1948_Swell_Robinson Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fergie23 said:
    Needed Claypool to get 25 yard receiving to win a $900 parlay, after the 15 yard catch on the first play of their first drive thought I was golden...apparently not.

    For all the people saying coaching hurts Fields, I would say, not being able to see and process the defense quickly and not being able to throw the ball accurately hurts him way more. It doesn't really make sense that someone that played so well in college is so terrible as a pro, but I guess the leap from college to NFL for a quarterback is something else.

    Robb

    Sorry to hear that is a bummer losing that one for you!

    Terrelle Pryor, former OHIO State QB in the NFL had very similar passing stats in the NFL as Fields has had....and he became a WR in the NFL and had a 1,000 yd receiving season.

    Bears need a QB next year and they get to use Fields as a hybrid WR/RB.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    would that make fields the best throwing RB in the NFL next year?

    I remember the Dolphins used to use ronnie brown as a dual threat many years ago. remember the wild cat?

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • 1948_Swell_Robinson1948_Swell_Robinson Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    would that make fields the best throwing RB in the NFL next year?

    I remember the Dolphins used to use ronnie brown as a dual threat many years ago. remember the wild cat?

    Yes, then they can get as cute as they want on gadget plays

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,490 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Run the wildcat all game. Can’t be any worse than now and you have one more blocker

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ^^^^^^^^ I would agree with this.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    this was week 2 against the Bucs

    Fields got sacked on this play

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    my goodness. what is going through his mind???

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • 1948_Swell_Robinson1948_Swell_Robinson Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    this was week 2 against the Bucs

    Fields got sacked on this play

    Bears coaches always come up with some ridiculous excuse to explain stuff like this away.

  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    my goodness. what is going through his mind???

    As the photo shows, he's looking at the receiver in the middle of the field. We don't know his progression on this particular play - that middle guy might have been his first read. We can also see that the right tackle is in the process of whiffing his block. I would guess he simply didn't have time, with the way he executed the play, to see the open receiver. Having said that, he definitely still should have seen the guy and made the throw. No excuses.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,350 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 1, 2023 1:30PM

    did Fields learn how to throw a football today? almost perfect with 4 touchdowns.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • 1948_Swell_Robinson1948_Swell_Robinson Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    did Fields learn how to throw a football today? almost perfect with 4 touchdowns.

    He did well today. Wasn't afraid to let it loose. Just the one bad pass to end the game. Needs to be able to repeat that.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1948_Swell_Robinson said:

    @craig44 said:
    did Fields learn how to throw a football today? almost perfect with 4 touchdowns.

    He did well today. Wasn't afraid to let it loose. Just the one bad pass to end the game. Needs to be able to repeat that.

    do you think it was because he wasnt thinking? I remember that he mentioned that he had too much information and couldnt process it.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 1, 2023 1:42PM

    @craig44 said:

    did Fields learn how to throw a football today? almost perfect with 4 touchdowns.

    I think you and I could complete some passes against Denver. they are just a shade less disgraceful than the Bears.

    but the best part of that game was Matt Eberflus going for it on 4th and 1 in chippy FG range with the game tied and under 3 to go. and not only did he not take the points, but he then handed the ball off to a back instead of trying a ~100% effective sneak and of course they got stuffed. Denver then blew down the field, kicked a FG, and a 28-7 lead with 4 mins to play in the 3rd Q turned into a loss

    it can't get anymore comical with that team

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,490 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    did Fields learn how to throw a football today? almost perfect with 4 touchdowns.

    They let him play today. Just go out and wing it.

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • 1948_Swell_Robinson1948_Swell_Robinson Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:

    @1948_Swell_Robinson said:

    @craig44 said:
    did Fields learn how to throw a football today? almost perfect with 4 touchdowns.

    He did well today. Wasn't afraid to let it loose. Just the one bad pass to end the game. Needs to be able to repeat that.

    do you think it was because he wasnt thinking? I remember that he mentioned that he had too much information and couldnt process it.

    He had a lot of wide open guys against a bad defense and he has been good throwing to guys when wide open. He also threw a few to guys that were more closely covered and those are a good sign. Of course, some picks are going to come with those(like the last one). So yes, looks like he wasn't as gun shy. Was it because of a terrible defense? Will see.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I didnt see the game, but it makes sense that he did better against a crumby defense. maybe the confidence will help him moving forward

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • 1948_Swell_Robinson1948_Swell_Robinson Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    I didnt see the game, but it makes sense that he did better against a crumby defense. maybe the confidence will help him moving forward

    To be fair, if Fields was in one of the discussions on here for the all time greats it would quickly(and rightfully) be pointed out that he fumbled in the fourth quarter for a Denver Touchdown, had an intentional grounding, and ended the game on the interception.

    Also, we know that Angel Hernandez has a part time gig working for NFL replay, because DJ Moore made a fantastic catch for a touchdown but it was clear he never got his foot down. DJ Moore was the guy that really had a good game.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1948_Swell_Robinson said:

    @craig44 said:
    I didnt see the game, but it makes sense that he did better against a crumby defense. maybe the confidence will help him moving forward

    To be fair, if Fields was in one of the discussions on here for the all time greats it would quickly(and rightfully) be pointed out that he fumbled in the fourth quarter for a Denver Touchdown, had an intentional grounding, and ended the game on the interception.

    Also, we know that Angel Hernandez has a part time gig working for NFL replay, because DJ Moore made a fantastic catch for a touchdown but it was clear he never got his foot down. DJ Moore was the guy that really had a good game.

    you are right, he did blow it in the 4th quarter

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • Jack131Jack131 Posts: 70 ✭✭✭

    Perhaps Tyson Bagent is the quarterback the Bears have been looking for. Good luck to him.

  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jack131 said:
    Perhaps Tyson Bagent is the quarterback the Bears have been looking for. Good luck to him.

    ..
    And his father is a successful arm wrestler.

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