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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PinehurstCoins Welcome to the forum and thanks for addressing the issue here. :)

    I have purchased from Pinehurst on more than 1 occasion and have always been happy with the coins I received and the customer service.

    It is one thing to use stock photos for modern bullion items but is not an acceptable practice for collector coins. In an effort to avoid problems like this in the future all collector coins should show the exact item being sold. An ounce of prevention is worth more than a pound of cure. ;)

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,019 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does ebay policy state that stock photos can only be used on modern coins? I could not find it. If so can someone provide a link, because if so, there are a half dozen sellers I know off the cuff that do so on most all their offerings and I would immediately point this out.
    Jim


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  • Thank you, Done

    @marcmoish said:

    @PinehurstCoins said:
    Thank you PCGS for speeding up the vetting process and getting our account approved quickly.

    @jdimmick thank you for posting our response in a timely manner.

    This is not a proud moment for @PinehurstCoins and we are working to get it rectified.

    hey welcome, but you gotta change your logo/emoji - that angry scowling one is depicting you poorly :D

  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AUandAG said:
    Ebay rules say that stock photos can only be used on Modern coins. All others must have the photo of the exact coin in the auction. From ebay: "Must include photos of the front and back of the actual item for sale (stock photos are not allowed)"
    bob

    I looked for this rule, but could not find it.

    If it is not too much trouble, would it be possible for you to post a link to this policy?

    Note - I am NOT challenging you on this issue. I just cannot find it, and would just like to see this specific requirement, in writing, from eBay.

  • RLSnapperRLSnapper Posts: 577 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PinehurstCoins I purchased a beautiful 1855 PCGS MS63 Large Cent from them on Ebay. It was the exact coin pictured and looked better in hand! Their picture was good enough for me to spot the rare 12 Star variety of N-10. It was a great buying experience and they shipped fast! I would do business with them again in a heartbeat. BTW I paid over PCGS valuation for the coin. It was worth the premium.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    I messaged the seller through eBay and sent them a link to this thread.

    I wondered! :D It appears that they may have returned the original pictures to the slabs shown as of today.

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,783 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MetroD said:

    @AUandAG said:
    Ebay rules say that stock photos can only be used on Modern coins. All others must have the photo of the exact coin in the auction. From ebay: "Must include photos of the front and back of the actual item for sale (stock photos are not allowed)"
    bob

    I looked for this rule, but could not find it.

    If it is not too much trouble, would it be possible for you to post a link to this policy?

    Note - I am NOT challenging you on this issue. I just cannot find it, and would just like to see this specific requirement, in writing, from eBay.

    https://www.ebay.com/help/collectible-currency-policy/policies/collectible-currency-policy?id=4337&st=3&pos=2&query=Collectible currency policy&intent=coins&lucenceai=lucenceai&docId=HELP1217

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  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @AUandAG said:

    @MetroD said:

    @AUandAG said:
    Ebay rules say that stock photos can only be used on Modern coins. All others must have the photo of the exact coin in the auction. From ebay: "Must include photos of the front and back of the actual item for sale (stock photos are not allowed)"
    bob

    I looked for this rule, but could not find it.

    If it is not too much trouble, would it be possible for you to post a link to this policy?

    Note - I am NOT challenging you on this issue. I just cannot find it, and would just like to see this specific requirement, in writing, from eBay.

    https://www.ebay.com/help/collectible-currency-policy/policies/collectible-currency-policy?id=4337&st=3&pos=2&query=Collectible currency policy&intent=coins&lucenceai=lucenceai&docId=HELP1217

    The part that notes "stock photos are not allowed" is for ungraded coins and currency. There is no such prohibition listed for graded coins.

    Just sayin'.

  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Their actions were in no way intended to deceive the public."
    Funny, Customer Service always selected a photo 2+ grades higher and never lower. I call BS on this and the happy customer above with the ultra low post count.

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you didn't know anything about coins and were told to find a picture to use, would you choose an ugly one or a pretty one?

  • rte592rte592 Posts: 1,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I won 2 gold mercury dimes in SP70 from an eBay seller, the certificate number pictured was random-001.
    I thought I would get a 001 cert number and another one.
    I had a friend that would have paid me 1.5x what I paid.
    What came in was not a cert 001.
    I emailed the seller and said I paid up for the coin because of the cert number.
    ( Buy the coin not the holder comes to mind )
    Gold shot up and I ended up good, but learned that even what's pictured may not always be what you get EVEN if the seller doesn't say so.
    Gotta ask questions if it doesn't say otherwise.

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,775 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 11, 2022 4:13PM

    If you didn't know anything about coins and were told to find a picture to use, would you choose an ugly one or a pretty one?

    All depends if the "Ugly one" knows how to make lasagna~

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • RLSnapperRLSnapper Posts: 577 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bolivarshagnasty I paid a $25 premium. @PinehurstCoins doesn't specialize in Large Cents and didn't know what they had. That being said I can assure you if they had not sent me the coin pictured I would have sent it right back to them. Their customer service was excellent. I am only speaking for my one transaction with them. As for calling BS on me for my low post count I would think that someone with over 7K posts would have more class.

  • Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 5,786 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And here is another from Pinehurst Coins, so this is their modus operendi just like APMEX, ok for bullion coins, but seriously, numismatic coins? Stay away.........

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/204145405465?hash=item2f8803ae19:g:EqMAAOSwvchjboft

    "Shop with confidence knowing when you buy from PCE"........ Seriously?

    Best, SH

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  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,525 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PinehurstCoins said:
    Thank you PCGS for speeding up the vetting process and getting our account approved quickly.

    @jdimmick thank you for posting our response in a timely manner.

    This is not a proud moment for @PinehurstCoins and we are working to get it rectified.

    Thanks for hopping in to address this issue. Many sellers would simply ignore.
    Welcome in, do stick around.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 11, 2022 9:33PM

    It is not a stock photo. It is an altered, deceptive photo, very unlike pinehurst coins.

    My message to them:

    "Appears you have a PCGS MS66 coin pictured in an AU53 slab. Boy is your buyer going to be disappointed. I have purchased from you in the past and this leaves me troubled."

    I will not be doing business with them in the future. Actual stock photos should be limited to modern issues that grade 69 or 70.

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  • ZoidMeisterZoidMeister Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/204117522785?hash=item2f865a3961:g:-RsAAOSwb2ZjTqYI
    Dug a little more, didn't take long to find this one.
    MS66 79-S with a PCGS 68+ photoshopped in. Come on...


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