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Does this looked cleaned to you?

MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,667 ✭✭✭✭✭

I sent this one to our hosts a while back. I don't know what to think of the cleaned designation... AU Details.
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    Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks flat. Any luster on it?



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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Obverse looks cleaned and retoned

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    MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,667 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Type2 said:
    Looks flat. Any luster on it?

    Yes, but it's subdued.. also, it's really friggin tiny.

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    PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,880 ✭✭✭✭✭

    market acceptable !

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    Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ya they are. I see some hair lines on the rev just above the 3 ones. They may have seen that.



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    telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,746 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Obverse has been cleaned but the entire coin has been retoned from a bottle imo. Evidence- look at the spot they missed near the rim at roughly 3:00 on the reverse.


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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will say cleaned.... signs around the letters..... Cheers, RickO

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    TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2022 10:54AM

    If it is not hairlined (I cannot see any hairlines), I think it should grade somewhere.

    Tom

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    BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,042 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @telephoto1 said:
    Obverse has been cleaned but the entire coin has been retoned from a bottle imo. Evidence- look at the spot they missed near the rim at roughly 3:00 on the reverse.

    That looks like a layer of toning that has chipped off the coin, rather than some toning agent that wasn't applies to that location on the coin.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
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    MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,667 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess this is just one of those instances where I disagree with PCGS.
    It's easy on the internet to defend "how they may have determined cleaning" but it's completely market acceptable to my eyes... lightly AU, there is no dirt or gunk to see hidden in protected areas, absolutely no hairlines anywhere, decent luster and legitimate toning in my opinion.
    I will not send it back in, they got my money on this one and I got their 6 second opinion...

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    AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Details: Scratched.

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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,963 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes it does. Lightly.

    When in doubt, don't.
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    1madman1madman Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Rim dings on the reverse?

    Yes, cleaned for sure.

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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,629 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2022 4:38PM

    Yes - Cleaned.

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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 21,908 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is the kind of coin where true views can easily point the piece in a great light when it has an issue. Without seeing the coin in hand I can’t venture a real opinion. Being told it’s cleaned, I can see what I’d look at first in hand and justify it. If you told me it straight graded, I’d be able to justify that, too. A coin like this needs to be seen in hand. For what it’s worth, there are coins that I can photograph very similarly which are very harshly cleaned. Just a question of lighting.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Meltdown said:
    I guess this is just one of those instances where I disagree with PCGS.
    It's easy on the internet to defend "how they may have determined cleaning" but it's completely market acceptable to my eyes... lightly AU, there is no dirt or gunk to see hidden in protected areas, absolutely no hairlines anywhere, decent luster and legitimate toning in my opinion.
    I will not send it back in, they got my money on this one and I got their 6 second opinion...

    It is a decent coin but the photos do look as though the coin was cleaned to most of us. It's at may worth considering that PCGS may be correct. As the saying goes, ownership always adds 2 points.

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