@ricko said:
Wow... This should be quite the auction.... May well hit the $3 million mark. Cheers, RickO
honestly, as a unique, high-grade CC coin, i see no reason for it no t to hit 4-8 million. it isn't a big honking dollar or double eagle but unique, is unique! i'm not saying i think it is or isn't worth that as it is all relative but seeing some of the prices for other coins with only a few known that have a higher selling price than this piece, it has room to grow, for sure.
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@messydesk said:
Unique 70-S half dime in the same sale according to the article. Decisions, decisions.
i obviously have no idea how much your entire collection is worth, so lets say it is 1/10th the value of what the hammer will be: would you, IF, your collection was worth exactly what the hammer will be, sell/trade everything, after all the work, the choice picking of specific pieces etc, let it ALL go for just this 1 coin, knowing you couldn't buy any more for a long time to come or even possibly until selling the piece to recoup and have the cash freed up?
@messydesk said:
Unique 70-S half dime in the same sale according to the article. Decisions, decisions.
i obviously have no idea how much your entire collection is worth, so lets say it is 1/10th the value of what the hammer will be: would you, IF, your collection was worth exactly what the hammer will be, sell/trade everything, after all the work, the choice picking of specific pieces etc, let it ALL go for just this 1 coin, knowing you couldn't buy any more for a long time to come or even possibly until selling the piece to recoup and have the cash freed up?
The prospect of a 1-coin collection doesn't excite me. Rather moot point, though, since I couldn't afford the down payment on the loan for the buyer's fee.
There is also the 1873-CC with arrows which someone can buy if they cannot buy this one or don't want to spend the money.
At the margin, this has to make some difference (by eliminating some potential buyers who have the money) where I think the $3MM from a prior post is more "ballpark" than the higher ones.
would you, IF, your collection was worth exactly what the hammer will be, sell/trade everything, after all the work, the choice picking of specific pieces etc, let it ALL go for just this 1 coin, knowing you couldn't buy any more for a long time to come or even possibly until selling the piece to recoup and have the cash freed up?
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Not a chance in the world. If I were a collector of LS dimes, I'd define my definition of "completion" without it.
I've asked myself a similar question for the series I do collect which isn't one from the US. Coins have come up for sale in the past (from a different denomination but same design) which are worth in the vicinity of all my coins of this type combined.
This isn't true for hardly any US series (can't think of even one), but I'd probably never be able to replace what I own now with comparable replacements without paying noticeably "above market" if I did that.
@WCC said:
This isn't true for hardly any US series (can't think of even one), but I'd probably never be able to replace what I own now with comparable replacements without paying noticeably "above market" if I did that.
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that was the thought that popped in my head as i was reading your post. lol
@messydesk said:
Unique 70-S half dime in the same sale according to the article. Decisions, decisions.
i obviously have no idea how much your entire collection is worth, so lets say it is 1/10th the value of what the hammer will be: would you, IF, your collection was worth exactly what the hammer will be, sell/trade everything, after all the work, the choice picking of specific pieces etc, let it ALL go for just this 1 coin, knowing you couldn't buy any more for a long time to come or even possibly until selling the piece to recoup and have the cash freed up?
The Coin World story describes a tiny die crack line that passes through the CC mintmark, and calls it "diagnostic." I don't think so. As long as that coin remains unique, the crack is diagnostic of nothing. If more of them appear, and they all have the same crack, it will be diagnostic. But then what if the new arrivals are not cracked? They would have been struck with the die in an early state. Cracked or not, they might all be genuine. Someone with a sharp eye, a good glass, and plenty of light would have to examine them side by side to determine if they are all from the same die.
Here's a question: Does that cracked die reappear on later Carson City dimes?
@messydesk said:
Unique 70-S half dime in the same sale according to the article. Decisions, decisions.
i obviously have no idea how much your entire collection is worth, so lets say it is 1/10th the value of what the hammer will be: would you, IF, your collection was worth exactly what the hammer will be, sell/trade everything, after all the work, the choice picking of specific pieces etc, let it ALL go for just this 1 coin, knowing you couldn't buy any more for a long time to come or even possibly until selling the piece to recoup and have the cash freed up?
For the 73-CC, at this point in time, no. But there was another coin that had me considering to do exactly that many years ago. (Not just liquidate my collection, but also my entire inventory.) Today, I probably wouldn’t do it for any coin. But back then, I was not as attached to my collection.
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@MapsOnFire said:
The Coin World story describes a tiny die crack line that passes through the CC mintmark, and calls it "diagnostic." I don't think so. As long as that coin remains unique, the crack is diagnostic of nothing. If more of them appear, and they all have the same crack, it will be diagnostic. But then what if the new arrivals are not cracked? They would have been struck with the die in an early state. Cracked or not, they might all be genuine. Someone with a sharp eye, a good glass, and plenty of light would have to examine them side by side to determine if they are all from the same die.
Here's a question: Does that cracked die reappear on later Carson City dimes?
It's diagnostic of a genuine coin. While there may not be any other genuine coins, you can't say the same for fakes.
It's the reverse that has the crack. Prior strikes would not have to be 1873 no arrows.
@MrEureka said:
What are the odds that the 73-CC Dime and the 70-S half dime and $3 all go the then same buyer? Talk about hitting the trifecta!
I got Monday's winning Powerball ticket right here! After I buy these three I am going to make the Smithsonian an offer for the 1849 $20 that they can't refuse!!!!!
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$2.8 Million will be my guess (with the juice).
bob
Hmm, I'll take the over.
Well, just Love coins, period.
Wow... This should be quite the auction.... May well hit the $3 million mark. Cheers, RickO
honestly, as a unique, high-grade CC coin, i see no reason for it no t to hit 4-8 million. it isn't a big honking dollar or double eagle but unique, is unique! i'm not saying i think it is or isn't worth that as it is all relative but seeing some of the prices for other coins with only a few known that have a higher selling price than this piece, it has room to grow, for sure.
Unique 70-S half dime in the same sale according to the article. Decisions, decisions.
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Who is selling these great rarities?
i obviously have no idea how much your entire collection is worth, so lets say it is 1/10th the value of what the hammer will be: would you, IF, your collection was worth exactly what the hammer will be, sell/trade everything, after all the work, the choice picking of specific pieces etc, let it ALL go for just this 1 coin, knowing you couldn't buy any more for a long time to come or even possibly until selling the piece to recoup and have the cash freed up?
no
Tom
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Holeeey cow!
The prospect of a 1-coin collection doesn't excite me. Rather moot point, though, since I couldn't afford the down payment on the loan for the buyer's fee.
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There is also the 1873-CC with arrows which someone can buy if they cannot buy this one or don't want to spend the money.
At the margin, this has to make some difference (by eliminating some potential buyers who have the money) where I think the $3MM from a prior post is more "ballpark" than the higher ones.
would you, IF, your collection was worth exactly what the hammer will be, sell/trade everything, after all the work, the choice picking of specific pieces etc, let it ALL go for just this 1 coin, knowing you couldn't buy any more for a long time to come or even possibly until selling the piece to recoup and have the cash freed up?
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Not a chance in the world. If I were a collector of LS dimes, I'd define my definition of "completion" without it.
I've asked myself a similar question for the series I do collect which isn't one from the US. Coins have come up for sale in the past (from a different denomination but same design) which are worth in the vicinity of all my coins of this type combined.
This isn't true for hardly any US series (can't think of even one), but I'd probably never be able to replace what I own now with comparable replacements without paying noticeably "above market" if I did that.
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that was the thought that popped in my head as i was reading your post. lol
Ugh. The last one I need. Anyone want to go halfsies?
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No.
The Coin World story describes a tiny die crack line that passes through the CC mintmark, and calls it "diagnostic." I don't think so. As long as that coin remains unique, the crack is diagnostic of nothing. If more of them appear, and they all have the same crack, it will be diagnostic. But then what if the new arrivals are not cracked? They would have been struck with the die in an early state. Cracked or not, they might all be genuine. Someone with a sharp eye, a good glass, and plenty of light would have to examine them side by side to determine if they are all from the same die.
Here's a question: Does that cracked die reappear on later Carson City dimes?
Yes, but the question you should really be asking is "does the die crack occur on earlier CC dimes".
Gerry Fortin and others have studied these dies in detail, and he states:
"Reverse A is the same die used to strike 1871-CC through 1874-CC dimes."
Read all about it:
https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date_mintmark/1873ccnoarrowspage.htm
Here's what Gerry says about this die crack on the 1872-CC:
"A die crack begins to appear through the mintmark on some 1872-CC examples
and is always present on 1873-CC and 1874-CC dimes."
https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date_mintmark/1872ccvarpage.htm
https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/Date_mintmark_variety.htm
Thank you for your most informative reply!
For the 73-CC, at this point in time, no. But there was another coin that had me considering to do exactly that many years ago. (Not just liquidate my collection, but also my entire inventory.) Today, I probably wouldn’t do it for any coin. But back then, I was not as attached to my collection.
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Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
It's diagnostic of a genuine coin. While there may not be any other genuine coins, you can't say the same for fakes.
It's the reverse that has the crack. Prior strikes would not have to be 1873 no arrows.
What are the odds that the 73-CC Dime and the 70-S half dime and $3 all go the then same buyer? Talk about hitting the trifecta!
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Could definitely happen. Anyone have a spare $10 million to $15 million?
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I got Monday's winning Powerball ticket right here! After I buy these three I am going to make the Smithsonian an offer for the 1849 $20 that they can't refuse!!!!!