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NewP- GTG 1894 Morgan (GRADE REVEALED)

LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,316 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 4, 2022 5:08PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Had been looking for a decent one of this date for a while.
Brought her home today.
:)

MS62 CAC

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63+ CNGRTS!

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.

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    DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Obverse is MS 65 with pretty weak luster, reverse is an MS 64 because of the horizontal chatter.
    I'm @ MS 64+ minimum.

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    dhikewhitneydhikewhitney Posts: 362 ✭✭✭

    MS64

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    Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 4,439 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My first impression was 64

    Mr_Spud

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    BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,127 ✭✭✭

    MS62

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 3, 2022 4:45PM

    I believe it would be held to 63.
    Jim
    Added to say the damage around the E on the Reverse would also be a limiting factor.


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    ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,971 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see it as a 63.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62+

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    SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m in the 64 camp

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    DeplorableDanDeplorableDan Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ll say 4, maybe 4+

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,253 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64.

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,850 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS62.

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63 is my guess and it sure is a keeper, regardless of what our host grades it!

    bob :)

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m in agreement with the first guess (63+) and would have guessed 64, if it weren’t for the appearance of subdued luster.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,989 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62

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    jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can see a strong 63. Might have been graded prior to the + grades. Looks to have a decent strike and fairly clean surfaces. Probably would have gone 64 if like others had said, the luster had been there.

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    marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63

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    124Spider124Spider Posts: 848 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

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    TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know....I'm seeing a slider.

    Tom

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say 63, obverse looks 64, but reverse pulls it down. Cheers, RickO

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    LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,316 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the guesses so far.
    Will post grade tonight 8ish EST

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,149 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m in the strong 63 camp also, and I’m a big fan of the light toning.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    I would say 63, obverse looks 64, but reverse pulls it down. Cheers, RickO

    Because a coin’s obverse is weighted considerably more heavily than its’ reverse, if the obverse is 64, it would take a pretty horrendous reverse to result in a grade of 63. And the reverse is far from horrendous. So if the coin graded less than 64, it was because it was deemed that the obverse was less than 64.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld ... Thanks Mark. I guess my 'early morning eyes' gave too much weight to the reverse. Good information. Cheers, RickO

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    DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,242 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62? Shot in the dark.

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    lermishlermish Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think lack of luster could easily be the photos. Looks pretty clean to me.

    65

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    coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Assuming luster breaks are lighting & photo, MS64.

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    al410al410 Posts: 2,403 ✭✭✭✭

    62 and because of obverse marks
    Al

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

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    Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Camping with a 64

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,693 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU58. Nice one!

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    dunkleosteus430dunkleosteus430 Posts: 471 ✭✭✭✭

    AU-58, perhaps a + grade.

    Young Numismatist

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    LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,316 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 4, 2022 6:50PM

    Thanks for your feedback and guesses on this coin.
    I completely understand how it is so difficult to grade a coin from a mere one angle, certain lighting shot on your screen.
    Looking at it myself now I probably would have said 63, shot 64.
    That being said, everyone was pretty much spot on by going with what they had to work with.
    Yes, the luster is a little subdued.
    Strike is pretty decent.
    Marks are less than average for the grade IMO.
    Overall, I was OK to add this one to my collection as this grade with the bean is not often found.
    The new pics are under different lighting which is easy to tell.
    Grade in first post.

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    justindanjustindan Posts: 697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62 cac

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    DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,242 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LeeBone said:
    Thanks for your feedback and guesses on this coin.
    I completely understand how it is so difficult to grade a coin from a mere one angle, certain lighting shot on your screen.
    Looking at it myself now I probably would have said 63, shot 64.
    That being said, everyone was pretty much spot on by going with what they had to work with.
    Yes, the luster is a little subdued.
    Strike is pretty decent.
    Marks are less than average for the grade IMO.
    Overall, I was OK to add this one to my collection as this grade with the bean is not often found.
    The new pics are under different lighting which is easy to tell.
    Grade in first post very shortly.

    Nice coin man. Just had that PQ 62 look to me.

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    DeplorableDanDeplorableDan Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ll be honest, even with the second set of pictures, I don’t think I ever would have guessed 62. Extremely solid coin for the grade.

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    LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,316 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DeplorableDan said:
    I’ll be honest, even with the second set of pictures, I don’t think I ever would have guessed 62. Extremely solid coin for the grade.

    Thanks, I agree.
    The biggest drawback on this coin IMO is the lack of luster. Strike, contact marks, and eye-appeal are above average for the grade.

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 8,973 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 4, 2022 10:05PM

    I think the field scratches hold It back. The cheeks are definitely 63 quality. That is a Primo 62.

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    @LeeBone said:
    Had been looking for a decent one of this date for a while.
    Brought her home today.
    :)

    MS62 CAC

    Wow, now I don't feel bad about the two 62's that I just got back...

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,149 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe that’s a coin that would be very easy to sell at 62 money, but very hard to buy at 62 money.

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