I can see a strong 63. Might have been graded prior to the + grades. Looks to have a decent strike and fairly clean surfaces. Probably would have gone 64 if like others had said, the luster had been there.
@ricko said:
I would say 63, obverse looks 64, but reverse pulls it down. Cheers, RickO
Because a coin’s obverse is weighted considerably more heavily than its’ reverse, if the obverse is 64, it would take a pretty horrendous reverse to result in a grade of 63. And the reverse is far from horrendous. So if the coin graded less than 64, it was because it was deemed that the obverse was less than 64.
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Thanks for your feedback and guesses on this coin.
I completely understand how it is so difficult to grade a coin from a mere one angle, certain lighting shot on your screen.
Looking at it myself now I probably would have said 63, shot 64.
That being said, everyone was pretty much spot on by going with what they had to work with.
Yes, the luster is a little subdued.
Strike is pretty decent.
Marks are less than average for the grade IMO.
Overall, I was OK to add this one to my collection as this grade with the bean is not often found.
The new pics are under different lighting which is easy to tell.
Grade in first post.
@LeeBone said:
Thanks for your feedback and guesses on this coin.
I completely understand how it is so difficult to grade a coin from a mere one angle, certain lighting shot on your screen.
Looking at it myself now I probably would have said 63, shot 64.
That being said, everyone was pretty much spot on by going with what they had to work with.
Yes, the luster is a little subdued.
Strike is pretty decent.
Marks are less than average for the grade IMO.
Overall, I was OK to add this one to my collection as this grade with the bean is not often found.
The new pics are under different lighting which is easy to tell.
Grade in first post very shortly.
Nice coin man. Just had that PQ 62 look to me.
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@DeplorableDan said:
I’ll be honest, even with the second set of pictures, I don’t think I ever would have guessed 62. Extremely solid coin for the grade.
Thanks, I agree.
The biggest drawback on this coin IMO is the lack of luster. Strike, contact marks, and eye-appeal are above average for the grade.
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63+ CNGRTS!
Obverse is MS 65 with pretty weak luster, reverse is an MS 64 because of the horizontal chatter.
I'm @ MS 64+ minimum.
MS64
My first impression was 64
Mr_Spud
MS62
I believe it would be held to 63.

Jim
Added to say the damage around the E on the Reverse would also be a limiting factor.
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I see it as a 63.
62+
I’m in the 64 camp
I’ll say 4, maybe 4+
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64.
MS62.
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63 is my guess and it sure is a keeper, regardless of what our host grades it!
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I’m in agreement with the first guess (63+) and would have guessed 64, if it weren’t for the appearance of subdued luster.
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62
I can see a strong 63. Might have been graded prior to the + grades. Looks to have a decent strike and fairly clean surfaces. Probably would have gone 64 if like others had said, the luster had been there.
63
64
I don't know....I'm seeing a slider.
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63
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I would say 63, obverse looks 64, but reverse pulls it down. Cheers, RickO
Thanks for the guesses so far.
Will post grade tonight 8ish EST
I’m in the strong 63 camp also, and I’m a big fan of the light toning.
Because a coin’s obverse is weighted considerably more heavily than its’ reverse, if the obverse is 64, it would take a pretty horrendous reverse to result in a grade of 63. And the reverse is far from horrendous. So if the coin graded less than 64, it was because it was deemed that the obverse was less than 64.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@MFeld ... Thanks Mark. I guess my 'early morning eyes' gave too much weight to the reverse. Good information. Cheers, RickO
62? Shot in the dark.
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I think lack of luster could easily be the photos. Looks pretty clean to me.
65
Assuming luster breaks are lighting & photo, MS64.
62 and because of obverse marks
Al
64
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AU-58, perhaps a + grade.
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Thanks for your feedback and guesses on this coin.
I completely understand how it is so difficult to grade a coin from a mere one angle, certain lighting shot on your screen.
Looking at it myself now I probably would have said 63, shot 64.
That being said, everyone was pretty much spot on by going with what they had to work with.
Yes, the luster is a little subdued.
Strike is pretty decent.
Marks are less than average for the grade IMO.
Overall, I was OK to add this one to my collection as this grade with the bean is not often found.
The new pics are under different lighting which is easy to tell.
Grade in first post.
62 cac
Nice coin man. Just had that PQ 62 look to me.
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I’ll be honest, even with the second set of pictures, I don’t think I ever would have guessed 62. Extremely solid coin for the grade.
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Thanks, I agree.
The biggest drawback on this coin IMO is the lack of luster. Strike, contact marks, and eye-appeal are above average for the grade.
I think the field scratches hold It back. The cheeks are definitely 63 quality. That is a Primo 62.
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Wow, now I don't feel bad about the two 62's that I just got back...
I believe that’s a coin that would be very easy to sell at 62 money, but very hard to buy at 62 money.