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What are ASE and Maple Leafs really selling for?

ajaanajaan Posts: 17,029 ✭✭✭✭✭

As I type this silver spot is $19.34/oz. I look at APMEX and see they have a random date ASE for sale at $37.61 + shipping and a Maple Leaf at $30.56 + shipping. Are these prices people are really paying?


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  • SpoolySpooly Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭

    Better to buy bars.

    Si vis pacem, para bellum

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  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,576 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I live in a "less than so called stellar area" so when ever I get eagles in, if loose, i sell in store for 26.00, but if solid date rolls, my wholesaler is paying spot plus 12.00 currently, so that is where they go, customer's here locally wont pay too much for anything. If I get some nicer 90's or 80's dates, ill group them on ebay ,, they do 32-35 currently. in groups of 5 or 10.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Uncirc ASE's on the Mint site are going for $67 (2022).... Most random dates I see other places, run $30-$40 range.... Still a good premium over melt. Cheers, RickO

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,282 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Spot +$2. RGDS

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 7,882 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:
    Spot +$2. RGDS

    No.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:
    Spot +$2. RGDS

    PM IQ -25. RGDS

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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,029 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:
    Spot +$2. RGDS

    Great! Please LMK where I can buy ASEs and Maple Leafs for $2 over spot. I would like to get a few rolls.


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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Holy cow. What a bizarre disconnect between electronic/paper "spot" and the real world.

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,752 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not moving many eagles. They're free to fly.

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 18,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Weiss said:
    Holy cow. What a bizarre disconnect between electronic/paper "spot" and the real world.

    Which is the real world?

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • bigjpstbigjpst Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @Weiss said:
    Holy cow. What a bizarre disconnect between electronic/paper "spot" and the real world.

    Which is the real world?

    Two worlds both real to those living in them.
    Paper world has its own price
    Physical it’s own.

    Seems that citizens of each world both want to deny the existence of the other or imply that their reality is the one that’s “more real”. While both can and seem to exist at the same time.

    Interesting times.

  • TurboSnailTurboSnail Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:
    Spot +$2.

    Impaired condition such as milk spot etc?

    The last time Uncirc ASE /spot +$2 or less from major bullion dealers was 2017 with 10% ebuck and no sale tax on Ebay.

  • @TurboSnail said:

    @blitzdude said:
    Spot +$2.

    Impaired condition such as milk spot etc?

    The last time Uncirc ASE /spot +$2 or less from major bullion dealers was 2017 with 10% ebuck and no sale tax on Ebay.

    Boy oh boy do I miss those 2015-2017 days when ebay bucks could be earned buying bullion, and discounted target gift cards on ebay could be used to purchase discounted ebay giftgards on target SIGH

  • WingsruleWingsrule Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭✭

    Local show rolls going for $620 ($31 each), older rolls another $1-2 per coin higher.

  • jclovescoinsjclovescoins Posts: 1,849 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Wingsrule said:
    Local show rolls going for $620 ($31 each), older rolls another $1-2 per coin higher.

    Dealers are selling for that or dealers are paying that?

  • WingsruleWingsrule Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭✭

    Selling, as of last weekend

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Wingsrule said:
    Local show rolls going for $620 ($31 each), older rolls another $1-2 per coin higher.

    buy, Mortimer, buy

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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,263 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sounds like real market action to me.

    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,752 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @hvellente said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    I'm not moving many eagles. They're free to fly.

    Asking price?

    Spot + $15. Early in the year it was spot plus $11 and they weren't moving.
    And I was paying spot plus 10.75 then to acquire. Now it's spot plus $14.

    But it's the delay on delivery that's squeezing me. One to 4 months for delivery after payment ? Crazy

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 18,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:

    @hvellente said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    I'm not moving many eagles. They're free to fly.

    Asking price?

    Spot + $15. Early in the year it was spot plus $11 and they weren't moving.
    And I was paying spot plus 10.75 then to acquire. Now it's spot plus $14.

    Are they moving now?

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,014 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 10, 2022 3:59PM

    @cohodk said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:

    @hvellente said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    I'm not moving many eagles. They're free to fly.

    Asking price?

    Spot + $15. Early in the year it was spot plus $11 and they weren't moving.
    And I was paying spot plus 10.75 then to acquire. Now it's spot plus $14.

    Are they moving now?

    The fact that bullion dealers are asking and getting record premiums should answer your question. But of course it won't because you continue to wear blinders.

    "Do you hear alarm bells ringing? Neither do I. And that’s a huge problem." - Simon Black

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,282 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TurboSnail said:

    @blitzdude said:
    Spot +$2.

    Impaired condition such as milk spot etc?

    The last time Uncirc ASE /spot +$2 or less from major bullion dealers was 2017 with 10% ebuck and no sale tax on Ebay.

    FYI milk spots are easily removable. A ozt of gutter is a ozt of gutter. No more ebux on bullion and no sales tax in The Commonwealth. Get creative stack on but not at @derryb APMEX gutter premiums. :sunglasses:

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Do you hear alarm bells ringing? Neither do I. And that’s a huge problem." - Simon Black

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,282 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Your middle name?

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.

  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,263 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now that the price of silver is rising, it will be interesting to see if the premiums continue to increase or if they begin to level off or decline. My contention has usually been that as the price increases, premiums decline. If this time is different and premiums go higher along with the price, it pretty much signals a major economic event or a new environment.

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    I knew it would happen.
  • PppPpp Posts: 452 ✭✭✭✭

    FYI
    Just offered to buy a monster box of silver eagles for $32.50 ea.
    How can I say no?

    Ugh, banks closed today.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,752 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 11, 2022 5:50AM

    @cohodk said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:

    @hvellente said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    I'm not moving many eagles. They're free to fly.

    Asking price?

    Spot + $15. Early in the year it was spot plus $11 and they weren't moving.
    And I was paying spot plus 10.75 then to acquire. Now it's spot plus $14.

    Are they moving now?

    I sold three backdated eagles the other day. If you call that movement.... bowels move faster.

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 18,493 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 11, 2022 6:21AM

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:

    @hvellente said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    I'm not moving many eagles. They're free to fly.

    Asking price?

    Spot + $15. Early in the year it was spot plus $11 and they weren't moving.
    And I was paying spot plus 10.75 then to acquire. Now it's spot plus $14.

    Are they moving now?

    The fact that bullion dealers are asking and getting record premiums should answer your question. But of course it won't because you continue to wear blinders.

    Others in the business report otherwise. In fact, some on this forum are attempting to sell ASE at much lower premiums. ;)

    ..#seer

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,752 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:

    @hvellente said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    I'm not moving many eagles. They're free to fly.

    Asking price?

    Spot + $15. Early in the year it was spot plus $11 and they weren't moving.
    And I was paying spot plus 10.75 then to acquire. Now it's spot plus $14.

    Are they moving now?

    The fact that bullion dealers are asking and getting record premiums should answer your question. But of course it won't because you continue to wear blinders.

    Others in the business report otherwise. In fact, some on this forum are attempting to sell ASE at much lower premiums. ;)

    ..#seer

    While that's true..... Some guys got the Midas touch,.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:

    @hvellente said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    I'm not moving many eagles. They're free to fly.

    Asking price?

    Spot + $15. Early in the year it was spot plus $11 and they weren't moving.
    And I was paying spot plus 10.75 then to acquire. Now it's spot plus $14.

    Are they moving now?

    The fact that bullion dealers are asking and getting record premiums should answer your question. But of course it won't because you continue to wear blinders.

    Others in the business report otherwise. In fact, some on this forum are attempting to sell ASE at much lower premiums. ;)

    ..#seer

    Maybe they want the "quick" sell and are underpricing the competion. Happens every day.

    "Do you hear alarm bells ringing? Neither do I. And that’s a huge problem." - Simon Black

  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,139 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here in Toronto Canada with spot silver at $28.69 ,

    1 oz coins are selling (from a bullion dealer) from a low of $35.54 (South African ) to a high of $40.69 (US Buffalo).

    All prices in Canadian$ at an exchange rate of 1 USD = 1.3253 Canadian $.

    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    JM Bullion buyback prices (gutter metal? LOL):

    "Do you hear alarm bells ringing? Neither do I. And that’s a huge problem." - Simon Black

  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,263 ✭✭✭✭✭

    35% over spot buyback. There's your indication of demand.

    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    JM Bullion sees the coming supply shortage of ASEs. And so do I. If it were not for a need for cash to fund my house under construction I would not be selling off a wee bit of my stash.

    "Do you hear alarm bells ringing? Neither do I. And that’s a huge problem." - Simon Black

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 18,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    JM Bullion sees the coming supply shortage of ASEs. And so do I. If it were not for a need for cash to fund my house under construction I would not be selling off a wee bit of my stash.

    Hard to imagine you with a cash crunch given your prolific and omnipotent mastery of trading.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,282 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    JM Bullion sees the coming supply shortage of ASEs. And so do I. If it were not for a need for cash to fund my house under construction I would not be selling off a wee bit of my stash.

    Hard to imagine you with a cash crunch given your prolific and omnipotent mastery of trading.

    I figured Ace would have funded 3 mansions by now with his impeccable crypto trades. Turns out he's just like the rest of us. LOL

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You can’t ev > @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    JM Bullion sees the coming supply shortage of ASEs. And so do I. If it were not for a need for cash to fund my house under construction I would not be selling off a wee bit of my stash.

    Hard to imagine you with a cash crunch given your prolific and omnipotent mastery of trading.

    I don't sit on cash, not volitile enough. When I need cash I convert some dollar insurance.

    How's your gains with the mattress stash?

    "Do you hear alarm bells ringing? Neither do I. And that’s a huge problem." - Simon Black

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    JM Bullion sees the coming supply shortage of ASEs. And so do I. If it were not for a need for cash to fund my house under construction I would not be selling off a wee bit of my stash.

    Hard to imagine you with a cash crunch given your prolific and omnipotent mastery of trading.

    I figured Ace would have funded 3 mansions by now with his impeccable crypto trades. Turns out he's just like the rest of us. LOL

    Your figuring made you go bust with silver, now you're an expert on people?

    "Do you hear alarm bells ringing? Neither do I. And that’s a huge problem." - Simon Black

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 18,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    You can’t ev > @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    JM Bullion sees the coming supply shortage of ASEs. And so do I. If it were not for a need for cash to fund my house under construction I would not be selling off a wee bit of my stash.

    Hard to imagine you with a cash crunch given your prolific and omnipotent mastery of trading.

    I don't sit on cash, not volitile enough. When I need cash I convert some dollar insurance.

    How's your gains with the mattress stash?

    Highest yields in 15 years---thanks for asking.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    You can’t ev > @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    JM Bullion sees the coming supply shortage of ASEs. And so do I. If it were not for a need for cash to fund my house under construction I would not be selling off a wee bit of my stash.

    Hard to imagine you with a cash crunch given your prolific and omnipotent mastery of trading.

    I don't sit on cash, not volitile enough. When I need cash I convert some dollar insurance.

    How's your gains with the mattress stash?

    Highest yields in 15 years---thanks for asking.

    I hate to break the bad news to you but cash does not provide a gain. It provides a loss as inflation erodes its purchasing power. More so now than in 40 years.

    "Do you hear alarm bells ringing? Neither do I. And that’s a huge problem." - Simon Black

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 18,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    You can’t ev > @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    JM Bullion sees the coming supply shortage of ASEs. And so do I. If it were not for a need for cash to fund my house under construction I would not be selling off a wee bit of my stash.

    Hard to imagine you with a cash crunch given your prolific and omnipotent mastery of trading.

    I don't sit on cash, not volitile enough. When I need cash I convert some dollar insurance.

    How's your gains with the mattress stash?

    Highest yields in 15 years---thanks for asking.

    I hate to break the bad news to you but cash does not provide a gain. It provides a loss as inflation erodes its purchasing power. More so now than in 40 years.

    The number keeps going up so I must be doing something right.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • WingsruleWingsrule Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭✭

    LCS yesterday, a few dealers had rolls of ASEs at $675, with older years $20-30 higher. Solid date Engelhard Prospector rolls were $600. Seems like a better deal to me as the montages are much lower.

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 18,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Wingsrule said:
    LCS yesterday, a few dealers had rolls of ASEs at $675, with older years $20-30 higher.

    Liking the real world experiences.

    👍

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • zski123zski123 Posts: 256 ✭✭✭

    @hvellente said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    I'm not moving many eagles. They're free to fly.

    Asking price?

    Spot +$2 of course.

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