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Ever see a coin with 3 clad layers on a copper core?
This is a first for me. I have never seen another. I have a few examples of coins that have been struck thru a clad layer, but this coin is different and way special.
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so nice when that ol pesky collar is outta the way. georgie's hair and details along with the eagle's lovely plumage has never looked so good!
that HAS to be a super rare error? (i do see you commented) someone took an already detached clad layer and then put it on the anvil die?
perhaps that was the die cap and it separated from the hammer die, except part of the clad layer stuck and then was struck through?
i wonder if someone "accidentally" dropped it, if the extra reverse layer would come off?
i KINDA did something like that recently with a quarter and half i found while roll searching. i think they "officially" call them magician's coins BUT one of them had a prize inside! the reverse of some mexican coin to make it essentially an interchangable reverse! ok so not really the same but KINDA.
I seriously doubt this was done on purpose.
I do think that there are clad layers all over the mint as there is this coin, many, many struck thru clad layer error coins, and some struck on the clad layer only error coins.
Sooo cool and unique!! Displays a randomness that manipulated errors, though outrageous, fail to achieve. Thanks for sharing!
Highly unlikely that the Quarter with bonded layer(s) was intentional. It’s a very dramatic and likely unique mint error!
This one on the other hand was intentional:
Mike, wow what an amazing error coin. I have not seen that one before.
Impossible for that to not have been done on purpose, but struck with US Mint dies at the US Mint makes this coin very interesting. Nice double dates.
Some exotic mint errors are coming up in the Nov Heritage Auction
https://coins.ha.com/c/auction-home.zx?saleNo=63199&ic=breadcrumb-coins-121913-interior
Very cool quarter! It looks like an eagle pizza.
I was having a discussing this morning whether or not to send this coin to PCGS or NGC to be put in one of their error coin holders.
I personally like the old little white ANACS slabs and have never cracked one out. I view them as collectable and part of error coin history.
IMO, ANACS undergraded this coin as they usually did back then. Would you keep this coin in the old white ANACS slab or crack it and send it to one of the big two TPG's?
Your bonded 25c is quite nice & accurately described on slab.
I have a somewhat related 25c
It was struck thru an elliptical clad layer, with an interesting small folded over edge making for an unusual, mated pair.
@ErrorsOnCoins ... Wow.. I have not seen one of those before. I do not hunt/collect errors, but sure love to see these wild ones here on the forum. Cheers, RickO
@LindyS
That’s definitely a unique mated pair!
Hmmmmmmm……
What is the weight? We can calculate the weight of a clad layer (1/6th that of a normal coin).
No idea as it is slabbed.
It is clearly a bonded clad layer for sure.
Nice coin, I like 👍
do you think errors that have been struck with no collar should grade higher or on a curve because the only reason they are strongly struck and with such lovely surfaces is because of the lack of collar.
i know non-error coins don't get special designations because they have a weaker strike, partially due to the collar. not always because of impairment to certain features.
we've seen double struck coins where the initial strike in-collar was kinda so-so but then struck w/o the collar and the 2nd strike is significantly superior in detail and surface quality but of course usually obliterated out of round.
That is partly it. Many error coins without the collar have very strong strikes. Bonded coin even more so.
IMO, on the whole, almost all of the old white ANACS slab are undergraded as standards were different then they are now.
Many of the old ANACS just had a standard MS60 label which was almost never the case.
Checking the weight, which takes about 30 seconds, should be an automatic step when attempting to attribute an error such as this.
Look at the strength of the strike on those tail feathers! Wow!!
Upon reflection, I have never seen a bonded clad layer error. This is a very interesting and accurately described certified error. I agree grams weight should be archived but 6 digit Anacs ceased a very long time ago. Very Nice ! You did well daylighting this one !
What is with the double striking above TED STA?
Partly the broadstrike, partly the (apparent) extra metal between the dies.
LindyS, that is an amazing set. That would look good in a double holder.
Here is a related error coin, an detached elliptical clipped clad layer with Fred's label ...
My guess is metal flow from the strong strike.
Here is another possibility:
https://www.error-ref.com/stutterstrike-a/
How did they find the time to strike any real coins at the SF Mint in the 1970s?
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Not really wanting to continue the drift from the clad layers, but does this mean there is an intentional "error" Ike dollar with a partial brockage of a Peace dollar reverse?
Ed. S.
(EJS)
Interesting.
Let’s stick with the clad layers please.
The reverse is blank.
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Ok, now back to clad layers…
Not sure how to post a link to another thread here. See my detached clad layer coin in this thread. "One thin dime-kinda". Similar to the slabbed Fred Weinberg coin shown above except mine is round not elliptical.
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On the obverse, there appears to be a fairly normal raised rim, but way out from the letters of LIBERTY and the date.
On the reverse, we have a raised rim close to UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, but then it takes that funny jog above TED STA.
Are we sure that there are not multiple strikes involved? Don't ask me how, I am still working on if.
TD
As we are chatting about clad layers, here's my favorite.
And as I weight most everything, it tips the scale .37 grams which is as expected.
One day I hope to find its mate.
Ok.
Since it seems that we are ONLY discussing clad layers…
Here is a PROOF clad layer😉
Very nice, but that looks like an entire clad layer, not half of one.
Very cool!
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the extra clad layer fwiw, wasn't struck on center. there is less at k5 and extra a k11.
the extra at k11 is sticking out over the edge a bit of the coin edge underneath but it appears not by much.
i thought about multi struck as well because of diameter but i don't see the tale-tale signs which are usually pretty obvious.
whomever was operating the press sure got those dies AWFULLY close together to get THAT much metal squished out like that. hard to imagine they'd have em set up to run like that as it would just cream the poor dies pretty quickly.
like you said, trying to decipher this stuff, especially from images, not matter how awesome they are (which the ones above are) is fun and hair-splitting. lol
Those rims still puzzle me, but I cannot figure them out.