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joeykoins
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Hi guys,
Visiting my favorite LCS. Spotted this pair in the display case. Wow, very cool, I think. Plus, the price is even better! 
$5, a piece.
"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.7
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Joey Baby,.....Most of the time I understand and sympathise with your eccentricities... But on this one....
Can We Still Be Friends?......😁
Here's one on the bay, asking $36
2009p
"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.Delete
"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.Are you sure it's AUTHEHTIC?
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
Fascinating.
Has ANACS ever used holders like those?
I've never seen those holders before. Why are there no grades given for them like on the other one you pictured?
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Well, "authehtic" (sic) is a grade. You can get the same (or "genuine") from any TPGS of you don't want to pay for an actual grade.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/203899883278?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=sWim4RqEQmC&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=I7BWTu72SVS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@jmlamzaf You mean gehuine. LOL
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Two more similar.
"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.Authentic is spelled incorrectly which possibly suggests it might be fake. It’s not for me but if you like it that’s all that matters.
You just wasted $4.75 on each coin.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/203899883278?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=sWim4RqEQmC&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=I7BWTu72SVS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY> @gumby1234 said:
Did you run the cert numbers? They don't check. I think all those holders are counterfeit.
Why would the label say "ANACS CERTIFIED?" This redundancy along with the obvious spelling error and ripoff PCGS-like slab screams "Made in China."
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Either they are counterfeit or ANACS Certification is down, as I also ran all 3 visible numbers with all being invalid.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
Nah, those are the holders that ANACS used for "TV" bulk grading. @cmerlo1 has done a lot of work unlocking sections of the database that were not being found due to bad joins, but he only knows to go after what we tell him about :-).
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ANACS printed "AUTHEHTIC" on the labels?
It's the Connecticut pronounciation
Thanks yall, for the heads up.
Appreciate it!
Can always crack out.
"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.I was going to post that authentic is spelled wrong but I was too late.
Oh well!! Great deal. I would probably not try to sell them though. The secret service may want to look at them before you sell them
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20th Century Type Set
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@joeykoins... Looks like even your LCS was fooled..... and just trying to recapture their investment... If true, very unethical, find another LCS. Cheers, RickO
I was fixin' to say that I like the ANACS holders in the OP...
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OK I've held back until now to ask: what's wrong with these coins? Aren't "improperly annealed" planchets a legitimate thing?
Granted, I am not a huge fan of them (unless I find one myself), but they seem to trade as bona fide "errors".
The spelling error on the label is goofy, and the second-tier (?) TPG is worth noting, but isn't the coin otherwise collectable (by some)?
One member here who sells error coins for a living has lots of them on his website.
There is doubt as to their "AUTHEHTICITY". There is a possibility that they may be improperly "improperly annealed".
This.
If they are authehtic ANACS slabs, spelling error aside, they are quite likely improperly annealed quarters. On the other hand, if they are not legitimate slabs, they may not be errors at all.
Honest question: do improperly annealed planchets usually come in roll quantities? I can see how they might.
They lost the numbers after 2009? That hardly instills confidence.
I also can't find any other improperly annealed quarters in those holders. If they were for a TV guy, shouldn't there be a lot of them? All of the Samoa quarters I see (improperly annealed) are in their regular holders.
Edited to add: there are other coins in holders like that labeled "authentic".
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Agree
Usually no, but quite possible due to equipment failure or operator error.
That is sooo true🤣
They aren't lost. The database has data going back to the earliest XXnnnn slabs. Over time and generations of their database, they've used different fields for different purposes. To pull in all the data for presentation, he's had to write some very complex joins to work around data where one field or the other is not present, has different flag values, etc. If you don't code it perfectly, chunks where a field wasn't used, can be "invisible".
The data that has been "lost" is the photo-cert data. It's actually in the ANA library but is stored on Zip disks. Nobody has put the effort into recovering the data from the old media and then trying to extract it from some database that equally is no longer used...
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I am NOT a computer person. So, please excuse the potentially ignorant IT-related question.
If the OP contacts ANACS, can someone there access their "database", and provide a definitive response regarding authenticity?
Maybe. The CSRs might just be using a version of the same query screen you and I use.
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Thanks for the info.
This post has been very enlightening. It's like watching the dissection of a magic trick. IMO. Thanks for some cogent info. Peace Roy
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Hard pass for me, but like they say, "Whatever floats your boat!"
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This redundancy along with the obvious spelling error and ripoff PCGS-like slab screams "Made in China."
Well, like the "Good Ole Boys" would say - This Crap is "Made In Chiner"
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
So- it's okay to post "libelous (accusatory, attacking) remarks concerning any individual, company, or other entity" now, then?
Is that new?
Youl'll have t o show us where you're coming from to even care!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Flagged your post. I guess we'll see how PCGS feels about their rules.
I am not, repeat NOT, saying that this is a genuine ANACS holder. That said, it appears that at least some genuine ANACS holders have "ANACS Certified" on the label.
An example from the ANACS website:
Source: https://anacs.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Grading-Brochure.pdf
Fight.
Fighting in the thread 😸😁
In the orange corner MasonG. Weighting in at 5200posts. And in the the grey corner Steven59.
Weighting in at 4750 posts. 😂😂
Tonight’s referee will be “ the PCGS Moderator “🦫
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
The referee could also be Rick Harrison's attorney.
Post count is irrelevant.
PCGS Rule #2:
Posts must not contain libelous (accusatory, attacking) remarks concerning any individual, company, or other entity.
Easy there buddy. Ofcourse, post count is irrelevant. 😁
I was being funny. The whole thing is kinda irrelevant. I was making humor. Dang, I was just surprised to see you guys seriously arguing about something rather trivial. Thought I’d lighten things up.
Very sorry if I hurt your feelings and same to Steve. I respect both of you very very much.😁
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
You didn't hurt my feelings. Don't know about Steve, he seemed kind of bothered about the Pawn Stars guys but you'd have to ask him about that.
I I can address that topic.
However, I use Joeys’s thread to show an eBay offer that fell my way—kind of a scary auction—only I bid—the seller markets rummage on eBay and this is his only coin sale—feedback is okay—the odd semi-sorted arrangement of the coins for the photos looks purposeful.
The lot amounts to roughly thirty dollars face value. I bid the minimum $40.00 for the lot, and paid $22.00 for shipping—two times face value. I live with that, though, shipping seems high.
The photographs and shipping cost kept bidders away, you think?
Some are proofs and others are not, I’ll see.
I’ll post what happens, good or evil.
Then, again, I might not be able to post, I do not like hanging on the wall stinking, and I expressed it.
I could die from embarrassment, I’ll change for the better.
This is correct- these slabs are ANACS slabs and are authentic. Like @BStrauss3 said, we use those for large bulk orders, mainly from TV companies. All of the major grading services do work for these companies. These bulk submissions are in a different system than the regular submissions (hence the odd-looking cert #'s), and this was definitely a challenge when I was coding the cert verification and pop report for the site. I'll forward a link to this post to my boss, @ANACSPAUL and maybe he can provide some more insight. We're also transitioning to a new website (you can see some of it at www.anacs.com) and I'm not sure if the cert verification and pop reports will be completely redone or just getting a newer, prettier UI with the same backend. Either way I'll look in the bulk DB and see if I can identify these certs and get them working in the lookup.
The misspelling of 'authentic' is a mechanical error. No grade on the holder means the customer requested authentication only.
Can we send coins in under same authentication only plan with no grade at a lesser cost, or just large companies?
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain