it seems as though that really nice retained cud comes with several different die states on the obv with no problem reverses and then the reverse also gives way and has some nice progression to what seems to be nearly a bisected reverse, at least.
Crying George reminds me somehow of that old 'Keep America Beautiful' TV commercial with Iron Eyes Cody.
To keep this coin related-ish, here is a small round shiny bit of metal...
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@Oldhoopster said:
Yes, mostly just (very) minor die chips, but still technically a mint error, so if you like the, save them regardless of what others may think
As previously said, the retained cud on the last pic is a good find and a keeper in my opinion
They're all landmarks on the same coin... I guess degeneration over time?
This macro is literally a lens that clips onto my cell phone ... Like a 40 ebay item (came with a wide angle and led). Crude but convenient
@Hyperion said:
They're all landmarks on the same coin... I guess degeneration over time?
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ya. the die simply had too much pressure, tilted, used too much etc. you can kinda narrow it down a bit with some experience, even on modern dies. if there isn't much die erosion, obvious metal flow lines etc, usually the die started falling apart too soon and could be caused by a few different things.
the fact this one had that big obverse multi-stage failure and then the reverse decided to get in on the action too, on a modern like this, is pretty fascinating and there seem to be a few handfuls at least of the progression. i would think the odds of a used reverse being added to the pair (like used to happen a lot long ago at the mint), is pretty low, so unless they purposefully let these go or some other reason, QC simply was asleep at the wheel, sick, dead or whatever, much to numismatists, roll searchers etc joy.
This macro is literally a lens that clips onto my cell phone ... Like a 40 ebay item (came with a wide angle and led). Crude but convenient
gotcha. those are pretty nice for the cost.
i'd LOVE to hear an expert around here do a thread JUST on that retained cud because it is VERY unusually thick with device detail still visible.
that would lead me to believe that there wasn't actually much of the retained part broken off the die but one NASTY deep die break and that piece was moving with each strike, which may indicate why so many seem to be out there w/o the die going into full cud mode.
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Will these be the most common error coin ever? Maybe
neat coin(s) and images.
can you be specific as to what your "macro" is?
it seems as though that really nice retained cud comes with several different die states on the obv with no problem reverses and then the reverse also gives way and has some nice progression to what seems to be nearly a bisected reverse, at least.
Yes, mostly just (very) minor die chips, but still technically a mint error, so if you like the, save them regardless of what others may think
As previously said, the retained cud on the last pic is a good find and a keeper in my opinion
Crying George reminds me somehow of that old 'Keep America Beautiful' TV commercial with Iron Eyes Cody.
To keep this coin related-ish, here is a small round shiny bit of metal...

They're all landmarks on the same coin... I guess degeneration over time?
This macro is literally a lens that clips onto my cell phone ... Like a 40 ebay item (came with a wide angle and led). Crude but convenient
Kinda like that runny nose. Peace Roy
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ya. the die simply had too much pressure, tilted, used too much etc. you can kinda narrow it down a bit with some experience, even on modern dies. if there isn't much die erosion, obvious metal flow lines etc, usually the die started falling apart too soon and could be caused by a few different things.
the fact this one had that big obverse multi-stage failure and then the reverse decided to get in on the action too, on a modern like this, is pretty fascinating and there seem to be a few handfuls at least of the progression. i would think the odds of a used reverse being added to the pair (like used to happen a lot long ago at the mint), is pretty low, so unless they purposefully let these go or some other reason, QC simply was asleep at the wheel, sick, dead or whatever, much to numismatists, roll searchers etc joy.
gotcha. those are pretty nice for the cost.
i'd LOVE to hear an expert around here do a thread JUST on that retained cud because it is VERY unusually thick with device detail still visible.
that would lead me to believe that there wasn't actually much of the retained part broken off the die but one NASTY deep die break and that piece was moving with each strike, which may indicate why so many seem to be out there w/o the die going into full cud mode.
@Hyperion..Those are excellent pictures... Those clip on lens work well. Cheers, RickO