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1913 T1 Buffalo Nickel GTG ***NEW PHOTOS***

jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,482 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 23, 2022 10:36AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Haven't done a GTG in a while, so give this one a try. It has beautiful toning, not necessarily showing in my pics.
Jim



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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Strike is pretty good. Looks cleaned. Don't like the obverse lines.

    That said, MS-64.

    Pete

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU58.

    Coin Photographer.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's not a details grade. Fully graded MS. The lines on the obverse are scratches on holder.
    Jim


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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,380 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a 63, maybe 64.... I know I can be a tad critical.... Cheers, RickO

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks 63 from the pics.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I found these photos taken before grading with incandescent light which gave the golden hue.
    Jim



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    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
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    1Bufffan1Bufffan Posts: 627 ✭✭✭

    MS65 would be my shot at it. very clean overall only a very slight flat spot-on hip bone, not distracting. Great looking 13 type one.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,482 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2022 10:46AM

    Here are the TV pics I forgot I had. One of the most beautiful reverses I have owned.
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,380 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I change my vote to 65

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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:
    I change my vote to 65

    Agreed.

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    dunkleosteus430dunkleosteus430 Posts: 471 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2022 12:03PM

    MS-65. Could the rim spots at about 10 o'clock change/affect the grade?

    Young Numismatist

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll say 65. First thoughts were 63 but that was from first photos. The other pics make it look much nicer.

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS-64

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    relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 7,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice, I'll guess MS65

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    justindanjustindan Posts: 699 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Going with 65+.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks all for your replies. MS65 was what I was hoping for when I submitted it earlier this year, took 3 1/2 months of waiting and I got this....MS62! I have been more upset over grades before, mainly due to value, but this was just one I loved and wanted to encase it as a keeper. Yes, I understand I can still love the coin and not the holder, but bs this was a little ridiculous. I didn't offer photos of the holder as it is packaged to go to my buff buddy Joe to photograph as he does so well.
    Jim


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    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,380 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Goes to show just how difficult it is to grade from photos.

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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:
    Goes to show just how difficult it is to grade from photos.

    That's for sure!!!

    Pete

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    ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t have a ton of practice, but I think these are hard to grade, even in person.
    That’s a nice looking coin to me.

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    BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It should make 64

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    7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,291 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is my belief that this buffalo series is one of the very toughest to grade in the whole classic US series, sometimes making the 2 1/2 and 5 dollar Indian series grading seem a party. I have a few of the "teens" Buffs that are in 63 and 64 grade range as examples and really could see them anywhere from 62 to 65.
    Hairlines are relatively easy to see on these and others, strike issues abound and sometimes very tough to pick apart even mild wear from strike issues or when there are a combination of both. Yikes.

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I too am forced to change my assessment to 65 based on the true view. The central regions are very well struck. I can’t judge the luster from these pics and that’s why I won’t go above 65.
    Nice type 1 👍

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,884 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A foot note. I should have stayed with my original 63🤣

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You would have still been wrong.


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    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain

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