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What year is most known for the wildest errors?

braddickbraddick Posts: 24,152 ✭✭✭✭✭

I always think of the early sixties when the U.S. Mint produced the most errors.
What say you?


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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1964 and 1999-2000

  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,173 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In 1977 & 1978 a lot of Jeff 5C were struck on 1C planchets.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,626 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry @braddick, I couldn't resist. You can have your thread back now.

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,872 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It all depends on how much the Mint Employies can get away with - still seems today they are bypassing all the mint security cameras and can still make their expensive graded error coins.
    Actually I'd like to see "Mint assisted error" on the label from the TPG's

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,046 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Were I in charge of mint production, workers would wear white coveralls and go thru metal detectors coming and going. Then they could change in a locker room. If error production wasn't so suspect, it would not be needed. I do not think that error coinage is allowed to go thru the system, I feel it is carried out. JMO
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  • JimWJimW Posts: 564 ✭✭✭✭

    How about unintended errors - 1801 LC errors that just happened presumably randomly due to various factors in place at the time (and had nothing to do with profits on secondary markets).

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  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. All kinds of crazy stuff goin on.

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  • Dug13Dug13 Posts: 268 ✭✭✭

    1857

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,152 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:
    Were I in charge of mint production, workers would wear white coveralls and go thru metal detectors coming and going. Then they could change in a locker room. If error production wasn't so suspect, it would not be needed. I do not think that error coinage is allowed to go thru the system, I feel it is carried out. JMO
    JIm

    There was a movie that depicted women workers packaging and packing powder cocaine. They were each naked. I am sure that helped prevent theft.
    Perhaps the Mint could implement such procedures.

  • GaCoinGuyGaCoinGuy Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:
    Were I in charge of mint production, workers would wear white coveralls and go thru metal detectors coming and going. Then they could change in a locker room. If error production wasn't so suspect, it would not be needed. I do not think that error coinage is allowed to go thru the system, I feel it is carried out. JMO
    JIm

    I toured the Denver mint back around 1988....if I recall, the workers did have to wear a particular coverall...i could be mistaken, though. Was cool seeing the pallets loaded with bags of quarters rolling by, though.

    imageimage

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe some errors are 'made' outside of the system.... Not sure how many, and likely not a number that can be conclusively determined. Such will always be possible. I worked for years in an industry that plated gold on products - the stories I can tell about employees 'taking' gold in various ways are amazing. The best we can hope to do is minimize losses. As to the OP question, I will leave that up to @ErrorsOnCoins or @FredWeinberg - the resident experts. Cheers, RickO

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,025 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I imagine there are two answers for this. One a known shenanigans year and the other not.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,626 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2022 5:54AM

    @Steven59 said:

    Actually I'd like to see "Mint assisted error" on the label from the TPG's

    Would this help? 😂 🤣

    Sorry @braddick, no date.

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @Steven59 said:

    Actually I'd like to see "Mint assisted error" on the label from the TPG's

    Would this help? 😂 🤣

    Sorry @braddick, no date.

    that's a good call. "no date" may actually be the winner! ><

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,500 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2022 6:11AM

    @OAKSTAR said:
    1986

    A painfuI memory, I don't like you today 😘 have a great day lol

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,626 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @Steven59 said:

    Actually I'd like to see "Mint assisted error" on the label from the TPG's

    Would this help? 😂 🤣

    Sorry @braddick, no date.

    that's a good call. "no date" may actually be the winner! ><

    If our host says it left the mint that way, who am I to argue? 😂 🤣 👍🏻

  • GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 4,152 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2022 6:24AM

    2022, we just haven't had time to find them all yet ;)

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,817 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seems like there were an awful lot of Sate Quarter and Presidential Dollar 'errors' in the 2000's

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,626 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @johnny9434 said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    1986

    A painfuI memory, I don't like you today 😘 have a great day lol

    Not if you're a NY'er. 😉 Hey, come to New York. You would make a great Yankee fan!! 👍🏻

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,422 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1964, IMHO. Many, many intentional "errors" of the wildest imagination

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,500 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @johnny9434 said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    1986

    A painfuI memory, I don't like you today 😘 have a great day lol

    Not if you're a NY'er. 😉 Hey, come to New York. You would make a great Yankee fan!! 👍🏻

    i could do that to. best of luck to judge as well

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ultra modern, well 2007 Denver takes the cake.

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,152 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DCW said:
    1964, IMHO. Many, many intentional "errors" of the wildest imagination

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:

    @DCW said:
    1964, IMHO. Many, many intentional "errors" of the wildest imagination

    I already saw that this am :)

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,152 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ^
    The BIN is too high; otherwise, I'd have been on it.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:
    ^
    The BIN is too high; otherwise, I'd have been on it.

    I wouda got it first, but I passed for the same reason ;)

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,626 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry @braddick, didn't mean to hijack your thread.

  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd say the 70s for all the crazy eisenhower errors.

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,152 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:
    Sorry @braddick, didn't mean to hijack your thread.

    You're good.
    You can do no wrong.
    I always enjoy your threads and comments.

  • 3stars3stars Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I remember seeing a show that showed the RCM mint gold "area" had black carpets and workers wore black smocks so that every speck of gold could be recovered.

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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Three dates come to mind. 1964, 1976, and 2000.

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,429 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @johnny9434 said:

    @OAKSTAR said:
    1986

    A painfuI memory, I don't like you today 😘 have a great day lol

    Since Mr. Buckner has now passed on, may he now rest in Peace from that circumstance..

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,429 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @Steven59 said:

    Actually I'd like to see "Mint assisted error" on the label from the TPG's

    Would this help? 😂 🤣

    Sorry @braddick, no date.

    that's a good call. "no date" may actually be the winner! ><

    If our host says it left the mint that way, who am I to argue? 😂 🤣 👍🏻

    It may have "left the mint that way", but how it was created there is another story.

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  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 4,664 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2022 11:30PM

    What years were the press's upgraded should be the indicators of some errors.
    Rubber bands and duct tape gets old fast.
    Also the demand for a stronger, more modern die material and it's process. Although this may be secondary.

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,160 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like 1801 Large Cent errors... here's one. Add in the die cracks and there are quite a few varieties.


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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,286 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:
    Were I in charge of mint production, workers would wear white coveralls and go thru metal detectors coming and going. Then they could change in a locker room. If error production wasn't so suspect, it would not be needed. I do not think that error coinage is allowed to go thru the system, I feel it is carried out. JMO
    JIm

    I had a floor tour of the Philadelphia Mint in 2009, and left through the employee exit and did go through a metal detector. It picked up the titanium pin in my left leg that the surgeon who had installed it the previous year had promised me would never set off an airport metal detector.

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,626 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:

    @jesbroken said:
    Were I in charge of mint production, workers would wear white coveralls and go thru metal detectors coming and going. Then they could change in a locker room. If error production wasn't so suspect, it would not be needed. I do not think that error coinage is allowed to go thru the system, I feel it is carried out. JMO
    JIm

    I had a floor tour of the Philadelphia Mint in 2009, and left through the employee exit and did go through a metal detector. It picked up the titanium pin in my left leg that the surgeon who had installed it the previous year had promised me would never set off an airport metal detector.

    Any idea what the exact security levels are at the mint or the ramifications to mint employees getting caught for stealing? They're government employees. If it were CIA or NSA employees walking out with classified material, it would be instant denial of access, fired/separation of service and possible criminal charges.

    My first thought is that security at the mint is lacking or substandard, which would tempt employees to take the risk of losing they job. Foolish to take a risk like that and put your career on the line. But several have over the years.

    Could someone swallow one of these errors? Or do the anal cavity thing and walk out? Could the metal detector that detected your titanium pin, detect a coin in someones stomach or butt? I would NEVER do that!.......the body acids and fluids would destroy the mint luster!! 😂 🤣

    Imagine smuggling a major mint error coin out in a body cavity, submitting it for grading and it comes back detailed improper cleaning!! 😂 🤣 😀

  • Here are a few Kennedy half dollars from our collect with no date.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    JFK_Collector ... You have some awesome error Kennedys. Great set.

  • @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    JFK_Collector ... You have some awesome error Kennedys. Great set.

    Thanks. The Kennedy half dollar errors we have that have PCGS True view photographs are in this showcase set which can be seen from the link below or in the album version.

    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/errors/calebs-kennedy-error-half-dollars/2045

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,286 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @CaptHenway said:

    @jesbroken said:
    Were I in charge of mint production, workers would wear white coveralls and go thru metal detectors coming and going. Then they could change in a locker room. If error production wasn't so suspect, it would not be needed. I do not think that error coinage is allowed to go thru the system, I feel it is carried out. JMO
    JIm

    I had a floor tour of the Philadelphia Mint in 2009, and left through the employee exit and did go through a metal detector. It picked up the titanium pin in my left leg that the surgeon who had installed it the previous year had promised me would never set off an airport metal detector.

    Any idea what the exact security levels are at the mint or the ramifications to mint employees getting caught for stealing? They're government employees. If it were CIA or NSA employees walking out with classified material, it would be instant denial of access, fired/separation of service and possible criminal charges.

    My first thought is that security at the mint is lacking or substandard, which would tempt employees to take the risk of losing they job. Foolish to take a risk like that and put your career on the line. But several have over the years.

    Could someone swallow one of these errors? Or do the anal cavity thing and walk out? Could the metal detector that detected your titanium pin, detect a coin in someones stomach or butt? I would NEVER do that!.......the body acids and fluids would destroy the mint luster!! 😂 🤣

    Imagine smuggling a major mint error coin out in a body cavity, submitting it for grading and it comes back detailed improper cleaning!! 😂 🤣 😀

    Don't know.

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JFK_Collector said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    JFK_Collector ... You have some awesome error Kennedys. Great set.

    Thanks. The Kennedy half dollar errors we have that have PCGS True view photographs are in this showcase set which can be seen from the link below or in the album version.

    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/errors/calebs-kennedy-error-half-dollars/2045

    Wow, just wow!!!!!

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,152 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those Kennedy errors are sick!

    Here is one I wish I owned:

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:
    Those Kennedy errors are sick!

    Here is one I wish I owned:

    I loved that coin but only owned it for about one week ;)

  • Our Kennedy half dollar variety set is a little larger, I haven't updated it in a few years, so we have a few more that need to be added and I need to take some more pictures. Our variety set can be seen from the link below.

    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/varieties/calebs-kennedy-varieties-by-conecas-numbers/1165

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,152 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @braddick said:
    Those Kennedy errors are sick!

    Here is one I wish I owned:

    I loved that coin but only owned it for about one week ;)

    Please, please tell me it sold for an ungodly amount!
    (I won't feel so bad not owning it, then.)

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 25, 2022 8:42AM

    @braddick said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @braddick said:
    Those Kennedy errors are sick!

    Here is one I wish I owned:

    I loved that coin but only owned it for about one week ;)

    Please, please tell me it sold for an ungodly amount!
    (I won't feel so bad not owning it, then.)

    I did price it high (3K), but also gave a discount on that amount. In hindsight, I underpriced it.

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