1827 50C Overton Variety Help (Found) and GTG (Grade Revealed)

FHC

I am trying to find the Overton variety for this 1827 half dollar. I believe it has the T-I alignment of Overtons: 124, 125, 132, 145. I think it is the O. 124, but I'd like some opinions.
Any help greatly appreciated!
Update: I was wrong with all of my guesses above. Busthalfbrian was correct with O.117a. I just did the attribution with the coin in hand and it checks out. PCGS AU55 CAC with some die rotation. A lot of you guessed AU55, but no one guessed with CAC sticker.

LanceNewmanOCC

if it turns out to be valueable and/or important to you and are gonna have it long-term, especially if sitting somewhere safe where you won't be able to put eyes on it easily, you will probably want to address the green spot at S8.

looks a LIL circ but i'll go with 63

logger7

It clearly has wear, 55/58.

lilolme

1827 ouch there are 49 overton #. So 124, 125, 132, 145 per OP to check.
I don't think it is O124 because the date does not appear to match. From:
http://www.maibockaddict.com/1827-o-124-r5-capped-bust-half-dollar.shtml

This is the O124 photo. Notice the placement and size of the 8 relative to the 1 and the 2 compared to the OP.

For O125 they identify a diagonal line through the T in Liberty (obverse). I don't see it on the OP but...

http://www.maibockaddict.com/1827-o-125-r3-capped-bust-half-dollar.shtml

Not O132 because on the reverse it identifies the UN of United solidly attached at the top.

http://www.maibockaddict.com/1827-o-132-r3-capped-bust-half-dollar.shtml

Not O145, again identifies the UN of United attached at the top.

http://www.maibockaddict.com/1827-o-145-r5-capped-bust-half-dollar.shtml

justindan

AU 55.
I don't see the line around Liberty for 125. The UN aren't joined at the top for 132. Unsure.

yosclimber

Can't be O-124 (or 124a) because Star 1 is too far from the drapery.

More importantly, your assessment of the T-I alignment is incorrect.
O-124 is "Right Sides T-I in Line".

I believe your coin is actually "Right Side of T Left Side of I in Line".

Draw a line down the right edge of T (not including the serifs) and see where it intersects I.
http://www.maibockaddict.com/1827-capped-bust-half-dollar-t-i-alignments.shtml

Keep trying - you already had the right general idea of using the T-I alignment to narrow it down.

And ... AU-55.

gumby1234

55

asheland

AU58

jughead1893

55

BustHalfBrian

AU55 and it's O-117a

privatecoin

55

FHC

@BustHalfBrian said:
AU55 and it's O-117a

Just did the attribution with the coin in hand. Definitely the O.117a. Thank you!

ThreeCentSilverFL

55 - 58. It's nice.

lilolme

@FHC said:

@BustHalfBrian said:
AU55 and it's O-117a

Just did the attribution with the coin in hand. Definitely the O.117a. Thank you!

One of the things I find about the Overton that is often difficult to get correct are these 'alignment' things. In this case the T to I as the 117 says I under right side of T. But as noted above is close to right side to left side. Similarly are the stars and A's alignment with the dentils (between, center, upper/lower edge, upper/lower half...) as these also can be one or the adjacent one. That is why I remain a 'casual observer' of Overton.

Pnies20

55

Die marriage is easy to pick out from the way “50 C.” Looks.

FHC

Grade posted

yosclimber

... A lot of you guessed AU55, but no one guessed with CAC sticker.

Most responses on GTG threads do not include the sticker.
I did find one response across 3 GTG threads that I checked which included a sticker guess, "non-CAC".
Maybe "GTGS" should be used if you want people to include both the Grade and Sticker?
Somehow I think GTGS is not going to catch on, as GTG is already so popular.

You could also ask people to guess the slab type, but you kind of gave that away by not cropping enough....

LanceNewmanOCC

@FHC said:
Grade posted

nice!

any commentary as to why you think this didn't au58? it is obviously a beast of a 55 with all that luster with very few circ wear on the high points.

i feel confident that a lot of the flat high points are just from weak strike and not wear.