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    kazkaz Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭✭✭

    better pop some Zofran before viewing that stuff.

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    Cranium_Basher73Cranium_Basher73 Posts: 2,810 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They couldn't even spell Lucky right.

    Throw a coin enough times, and suppose one day it lands on its edge.

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    gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sadly people that don't know any better will but those.

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    yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,596 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So convenient - they come in fake slabs....

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    heavymetalheavymetal Posts: 570 ✭✭✭✭

    Ounces of gold for $125. Who says there is inflation?

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    alaura22alaura22 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe until we start to prosecute this people it's never going to end

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    How many of these have been reported to the secret service? Granted, the reporting site specifically calls out paper currency. https://www.secretservice.gov/investigation/counterfeit

    Customs is a better option. If enough people report sellers they will get involved. eBay doesn’t seem to care. But getting the feds involved might help. https://www.stopfakes.gov/Reporting-an-Online-Vendor-Selling-Fakes

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cranium_Basher73 said:
    They couldn't even spell Lucky right.

    Or you didn't spell Lucy right?

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    2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 817 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This, this will be the downfall of our grand hobby….

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @alaura22 said:
    I believe until we start to prosecute this people it's never going to end

    Good luck prosecuting foreign nationals living outside the US.

    The counterfeiting of coins that were produced before the creation of communist China in 1949 is not illegal in China.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.

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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 16,864 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 15, 2022 4:06AM

    And they use legitimate certification numbers on those slabs......usually from higher priced coins.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @alaura22 said:
    I believe until we start to prosecute this people it's never going to end

    Good luck prosecuting foreign nationals living outside the US.

    The counterfeiting of coins that were produced before the creation of communist China in 1949 is not illegal in China.

    Exactly. And I really don't think cast counterfeits of Morgan dollars in Asia are high on the list of foreign policy concerns in the region. Heck, they've been doing them for 75+ years as souvenirs

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    tcollectstcollects Posts: 844 ✭✭✭✭

    I can't remember where I read it, but some guy got busted for importing a bunch of fake gold bars in fake holders like pamp and credit suisse. Maybe some fake slabs, too. The guy was obviously going to try to pass them off as legit. But it was a massive shipment. I bet one or two wouldn't attract customs enforcement.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tcollects said:
    I can't remember where I read it, but some guy got busted for importing a bunch of fake gold bars in fake holders like pamp and credit suisse. Maybe some fake slabs, too. The guy was obviously going to try to pass them off as legit. But it was a massive shipment. I bet one or two wouldn't attract customs enforcement.

    He was arrested for importing. Did nothing to the exporter. It's the equivalent of arresting the 16 year old street corner drug dealer while the cartel leaders are living large in Mexico or Colombia.

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    AtcarrollAtcarroll Posts: 343 ✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @alaura22 said:
    I believe until we start to prosecute this people it's never going to end

    Good luck prosecuting foreign nationals living outside the US.

    Drone strike?

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Atcarroll said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @alaura22 said:
    I believe until we start to prosecute this people it's never going to end

    Good luck prosecuting foreign nationals living outside the US.

    Drone strike?

    Not even funny. America has lost her soul.

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    dsessomdsessom Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are so many counterfeits coming out of China right now that it's nauseating. My poor dad got taken by some Chinese counterfeiters a few months ago, when he bought a couple dozen "American Silver Eagles" for $19 each, and of course they were fakes, and very good fakes I might add which is what is so scary. They are not obvious fakes, and could easily pass for the read deal.

    Here is the site he got them from: https://thecoiny.com/products/american-silver-eagles

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dsessom said:
    There are so many counterfeits coming out of China right now that it's nauseating. My poor dad got taken by some Chinese counterfeiters a few months ago, when he bought a couple dozen "American Silver Eagles" for $19 each, and of course they were fakes, and very good fakes I might add which is what is so scary. They are not obvious fakes, and could easily pass for the read deal.

    Here is the site he got them from: https://thecoiny.com/products/american-silver-eagles

    They are located in London so once again they are outside the reach of the Secret Service. If your father paid with a credit card, he should call the credit card company and reverse the charge.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some scams are obvious.... If it looks like a great deal, beware. Others, like @dsessom just posted, are dangerous and obviously working... People are not going to be 'giving away' good coins... most of the time, bargains are not. Cheers, RickO

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    tincuptincup Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tcollects said:
    I can't remember where I read it, but some guy got busted for importing a bunch of fake gold bars in fake holders like pamp and credit suisse. Maybe some fake slabs, too. The guy was obviously going to try to pass them off as legit. But it was a massive shipment. I bet one or two wouldn't attract customs enforcement.

    When you read further down in the description, they do say "American Plated Silver Eagles coin" and "plated" in another paragraph. But have to agree... very deceptive looking.

    ----- kj
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    burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 15, 2022 6:42AM

    Interesting on at least the '89-CC they used the cert of a coin with PCGS images...

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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2windy2fish said:
    This, this will be the downfall of our grand hobby….

    I've been posting that for a long time.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ugh. 😒

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 15, 2022 7:15AM

    @PerryHall said:

    @dsessom said:
    There are so many counterfeits coming out of China right now that it's nauseating. My poor dad got taken by some Chinese counterfeiters a few months ago, when he bought a couple dozen "American Silver Eagles" for $19 each, and of course they were fakes, and very good fakes I might add which is what is so scary. They are not obvious fakes, and could easily pass for the read deal.

    Here is the site he got them from: https://thecoiny.com/products/american-silver-eagles

    They are located in London so once again they are outside the reach of the Secret Service. If your father paid with a credit card, he should call the credit card company and reverse the charge.

    Good catch. It may be easier to go after them in London.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,893 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @burfle23 said:
    Interesting on at least the '89-CC they used the cert of a coin with PCGS images...

    Very interesting. I wonder if they are counting on the buyers not checking after receiving it?

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,512 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @yosclimber said:
    So convenient - they come in fake slabs....

    yes, how elegant :s

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    Mike59Mike59 Posts: 299 ✭✭✭

    disgusting ! but the old saying "if its 2 good to be true then it most likely is"
    Mike

    MIKE B.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @burfle23 said:
    Interesting on at least the '89-CC they used the cert of a coin with PCGS images...

    Very interesting. I wonder if they are counting on the buyers not checking after receiving it?

    They aren't pretending it is real

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My local pawn shop no longer deals in coins after one of their Chumlees paid real money for a dozen of these.

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    justindanjustindan Posts: 697 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow.

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,829 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Odd, they've taped over the Trueview icon on the slab, but not the cert number... I just checked out the "1893-CC" Morgan that should have an image, but it doesn't... is the vendor taking advantage of the lag in getting TV's posted? The font on the reverse and mint mark placement seem a bit "off", but the cert number is for an MS63 '93-CC...

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    Eldorado9Eldorado9 Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is no Santa Claus in numismatics......as the saying goes.

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    burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 15, 2022 6:01PM

    @lkenefic said:
    Odd, they've taped over the Trueview icon on the slab, but not the cert number... I just checked out the "1893-CC" Morgan that should have an image, but it doesn't... is the vendor taking advantage of the lag in getting TV's posted? The font on the reverse and mint mark placement seem a bit "off", but the cert number is for an MS63 '93-CC...

    Not sure what you are referring to- the PCGS cert does have an image and I posted it above with the cert verification
    image...

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    burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The barcode on the obverse slab does not read with my scanner app.

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,829 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @burfle23 said:

    @lkenefic said:
    Odd, they've taped over the Trueview icon on the slab, but not the cert number... I just checked out the "1893-CC" Morgan that should have an image, but it doesn't... is the vendor taking advantage of the lag in getting TV's posted? The font on the reverse and mint mark placement seem a bit "off", but the cert number is for an MS63 '93-CC...

    Not sure what you are referring to- the PCGS cert does have an image and I posted it above with the cert verification
    image...

    In the images I saw, there seemed to be something over the Trueview badge (tape?) but I could readily plug in the cert number to verify... but the whole thing is bogus...

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @alaura22 said:
    I believe until we start to prosecute this people it's never going to end

    Good luck prosecuting foreign nationals living outside the US.

    Time for vigilante justice! >:) OK. Yeah. Not going to happen. :/

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @privatecoin said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @alaura22 said:
    I believe until we start to prosecute this people it's never going to end

    Good luck prosecuting foreign nationals living outside the US.

    Time for vigilante justice! >:) OK. Yeah. Not going to happen. :/

    Lol. For $100 coin, it's not worth the airfare.

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