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Starting Up A Collection Of Beautiful Mexican Libertad’s

Here’s my start so far.Well,I think they are a beautiful coin anyway.Some of these dates get kinda pricey at around $200 to $300 dollars in high grade.Not sure if I will get them all or just most of them.I can get quite a few more different dates for $300 then paying that for just one key date.
Has anyone else put a set of these together?

Or are they just considered another 1 once of silver coin to most.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @VegasDan... They are beautiful coins. Several on here collect them.... I have been thinking about getting one. I would just get a raw one and self slab for protection. Cheers, RickO

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think @joeykoins started a Libertad collection earlier this year, see here https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1070912/2-new-buys-for-my-2-new-starter-collections

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    Bad transactions with : nobody to date

  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,300 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've got a small handfull of them, love them for sure.

  • USMC_6115USMC_6115 Posts: 2,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a few, but have started to collect by date. I'll just collect them RAW as the graded ones get pricey quick. Mintages are crazy low compared to American Eagles. I've read somewhere the the 2022 could be a LOW mintage issue.. but who knows?

  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,265 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coins for sure, but what is the premium on these? Every time I look, they are more expensive than even the Silver Eagles. Am I looking in the wrong places?

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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of my local B&Ms sells them the same as any other eagle or maple. But they don't get them that often.

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  • @jmski52 said:
    Nice coins for sure, but what is the premium on these? Every time I look, they are more expensive than even the Silver Eagles. Am I looking in the wrong places?

    You are not looking in the wrong place. They used to have premiums in the same range as eagles or maples but a few years back the Mexico Mont decided so start charging a big premium for them and it’s raised the prices on them for all the years. Or more people think they are cool and driving up demand. In years past I could find them in generic bins for a couple dollars over spot but no more.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 22,564 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love them myself. I have a few dates, I’m also collecting them very slowly.

  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,320 ✭✭✭✭✭

    its time to get a few for myself (more in the pile is good)

  • VegasDanVegasDan Posts: 58 ✭✭✭

    @jmski52 said:
    Nice coins for sure, but what is the premium on these?

    I’m not sure about other what anyone else has been able to get BU Libertad’s for but the best deal I could ever get on them is around $42 to $44 dollars each.If you ever sell them you will get quite a bit over spot also.A few I paid over $50 for.
    Slabbed even more.

  • EstilEstil Posts: 6,845 ✭✭✭✭

    Wow...I had no idea they got started even before the Eagle and the Leaf. Any good place on Ebay you can get these from (the 80s/90s ones of course), preferably in capsules?

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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,265 ✭✭✭✭✭

    _I had no idea they got started even before the Eagle and the Leaf. _

    I had 100 Onzas back in 1974, so Mexico was making 1 oz. silver bullion coins even early, as Weiss mentioned.

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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 16, 2022 6:49AM

    I alluded to the original "onzas" with my allegory story and "Prince Sterling".
    Onzas are made from sterling silver (92.5% pure). But at 33.625 grams, they weigh more than a troy ounce's 31.1035 grams, so they contain one troy ounce of pure silver.

    Mexico resurrected the 1940s "onza" series in 1978. It seemed logical. America had ended their 90% pure silver circulating coinage in 1964. Mexico is the world's largest silver producer. So they attempted to supply the demand for silver by producing coins with a troy ounce of pure silver in a form even more pure than what most people were used to: 92.5% pure silver rather than 90% pure silver.

    At 41.5 mm vs. a US silver dollar at 38.1mm, the Onza is a great big, beefy silver coin. In fact, they're so big that it's hard to find a coin tube that will work for them. Even the silver eagle rolls are too small.

    Ultimately, the market decided to leapfrog past 92.5% pure silver all the way up to the .999 pure silver standard. I've surmised the reason is that while 90% pure silver was a known and accepted purity, and 92.5% sterling is even more pure and should have therefore been even more sought after. But after the 1960s, silver was no longer circulating. It didn't need the durability and strength of silver alloyed with copper any more.

    So in a way, Mexico gets even more credit. They released over 6 million 92.5% pure silver onzas in 1980. Just two years later, they released over 1,000,000 99.9% pure libertads. They read the market and shifted gears to pure silver, still beating all the other country's silver bullion coins to the punch and creating one of the most beautiful silver bullion coins in the process.

    And let's face it: .999 pure silver is just damn sexy.

    But that doesn't mean I don't love the onzas. And the libertads. :)

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 22,564 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love the original Libertads from the early to mid 80's!

  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To be fair, I didn't do a Metal Porn today. Figured I better work in some images somehow :)

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  • USMC_6115USMC_6115 Posts: 2,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 19, 2022 3:17PM

    I just picked up these two 2022s:


  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 17,917 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice start Vegas, they are beautiful coins. The newer design is nice but the older is outstanding. I'm really appreciate the edge lettering.

    ps. I cured my urge for Mexican silver with the Onza's Weiss spoke of. Had to get myself a roll of '79's and a roll of '80's before the fever subsided. I'll have to snap a photo of them for his next Friday metal porn thread.

  • USMC_6115USMC_6115 Posts: 2,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 8, 2022 1:17PM

    Just added these:






  • ashelandasheland Posts: 22,564 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Out of the few that I have, I believe this is the very best one that I have as far as the year and the condition:

    I’m not sure if it’s quite worth sending in to be certified, but maybe one day.

    https://youtu.be/_rSETjXC7Hg

  • USMC_6115USMC_6115 Posts: 2,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @asheland
    Nice! I think it is the 2nd lowest mintage too.. I would definitely send it in!

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 22,564 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @USMC_6115 said:
    @asheland
    Nice! I think it is the 2nd lowest mintage too.. I would definitely send it in!

    I remember looking it up and seeing a very low mintage, and, what’s more, this example is very clean with no milk spots or toning or anything it’s really nice. 👍

  • pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have one gold and one silver. Beautiful coins but pricey.

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  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @USMC_6115 said:
    @asheland
    Nice! I think it is the 2nd lowest mintage too.. I would definitely send it in!

    @asheland said:
    I remember looking it up and seeing a very low mintage, and, what’s more, this example is very clean with no milk spots or toning or anything it’s really nice. 👍


    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertad_(coin)

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