National Show Special Sub Back - Second sub popped.
ndleo
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I couldn't pass up the $18 National special but I didn't have any eligible cards in my sub pile. So I scrounged through my singles boxes and put together a random sub. Mostly modern FB, base rookies that weren't worth subbing at the higher prices.
The Yao is a pop 1.
GEM MINT 10 2002 Fleer Authentix 101 Yao Ming Club Box
GEM MINT 10 2008 Topps Chrome TC166 Matt Ryan
MINT 9 2008 Topps Chrome TC166 Matt Ryan
GEM MINT 10 2015 Topps Chrome 148 Stefon Diggs Refractor
GEM MINT 10 2015 Panini Prizm 285 Stefon Diggs
GEM MINT 10 2015 Panini Prizm 285 Stefon Diggs Blue Prizm
GEM MINT 10 2015 Panini Prizm 285 Stefon Diggs Violet Prizm
GEM MINT 10 2016 Panini Donruss Optic 172 Jared Goff Purple
GEM MINT 10 2016 Panini Donruss Optic 168 Ezekiel Elliott
GEM MINT 10 2016 Panini Donruss Optic 168 Ezekiel Elliott
GEM MINT 10 2017 Panini Donruss Optic 168 Christian McCaffrey
GEM MINT 10 2018 Panini Donruss Optic 167 Lamar Jackson
MINT 9 2018 Panini Donruss Optic 156 Saquon Barkley Holo
GEM MINT 10 2021 Pro Set Metal 1989 Xrc Pro Set Prospect 90 Trevor Lawrence Purple Mojo
GEM MINT 10 2021 Panini Mosaic Rookie Autographs Mosaic RA8 Jaylen Waddle
GEM MINT 10 2021 Leaf Metal Draft Autograph Portrait PAJW1 Jaylen Waddle Blue Marble
MINT 9 2021 Leaf Metal Draft Autographs BADS2 Devonta Smith Pink Marble
GEM MINT 10 2021 Leaf Pro Set Power Campus Kings Autographs CK-BY1 Bryce Young
MINT 9 2021 Leaf Pro Set Power Autographs QE1 Quinn Ewers
MINT 9 2021 Bowman University Prime Chrome Signatures Pcsjm JJ Mccarthy
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WOW!
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/987963/1951-wheaties-premium-photos-set-registry#latest
Thanks. I know a lot of people think the standards are higher post COVID, however my experience is that the standards haven’t changed for modern or I have gotten better eyes as I get older (ha ha not likely!)
I don't know values on these modern cards. Any upcharges?
ndleo - if you haven't noticed grading is always harder now than it was in the past. I think I have been reading the same complaints about how tough the grading is "now" since I joined 15 years ago.
Robb
No upcharges. The value of these cards isn’t that high but they were just sitting in my stars box.
I have another sub at the $30 level. I will post those when I get them.
As for the standards, I had lively debates at the Burbank show about the grading standards. I think some of the complaints are from newer collectors. I mostly sub modern so I can’t comment if the vintage standards have changed.
I still pull a few modern PSA 8’s and even a few PSA 6’s on subs but for the most part, I think I have my sub “process” locked down for now. I did go through a lot of cards to find these 20.
You had 'lively debates' with dealers or the folks at the PSA table? Just curious who and how the debates went.
The debates happened with other collectors in the brutal line getting in and in the PSA/BGS line. BGS was doing great business with the Raw service. People were pulling cards and taking it BGS right away for RCR. Then they would submit the best cards.
Generally people think PSA has become tougher post COVID.
Just got grades back on a Vintage National $18 submittal (one to go).
About what I'd expect, but did finally get a 63 Aaron graded that I'd pulled out of another company's slab that had already been denied twice. First two times they sent it back with 'evidence of trimming' but this time it was graded. And the same grade as before (PSA 6).
My second sub just popped. I pulled a bunch of Trevor Lawrence from the Leaf I ripped. These are a little less than half of the Lawrences I pulled. The 9's are the "paper stock" cards, the rest are metal/chrome stock except for the 1990 Auto. The Stevenson should have been with the $18 sub but I forgot to include it.
1 GEM MINT 10 2021 Leaf Valiant Autographs TL1 Trevor Lawrence Orange Card
2 MINT 9 2021 Leaf Draft Xrc Autographs TL1 Trevor Lawrence Blue Card
3 GEM MINT 10 2021 Leaf Memories 1990 Autographs BATL1 Trevor Lawrence Card
4 MINT 9 2021 Leaf Memories 1990 Autographs BATL1 Trevor Lawrence Platinum Spectrum Card
5 MINT 9 2021 Leaf Pro Set Power Autographs TL1 Trevor Lawrence Card
6 GEM MINT 10 2021 Pro Set Metal 1989 Autographs Xrc Pro Set Prospect TL1 Trevor Lawrence Purple Wave Card
7 GEM MINT 10 2021 Pro Set Metal 1989 Autographs Xrc Pro Set Prospect TL1 Trevor Lawrence SP-Purple Crystals Card
8 GEM MINT 10 2021 Leaf Metal Draft Autographs BATL1 Trevor Lawrence Red Marble Card
9 GEM MINT 10 2021 Leaf Metal Draft Autographs BATL2 Trey Lance Silver Mojo Card
10 GEM MINT 10 2021 Pro Set Metal 1989 Autographs Xrc Pro Set Prospect RS1 Rhamondre Stevenson Green Mojo
I agree. It's just people having to justify why the new label should command a premium. Pretty good racket if you ask me. Create a standard, run it for a few years, claim to upgrade it and have you customers pay again just to repackage their already graded cards. Freaking genius.
Brian
Yup. They got me twice on my collection.