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Would this 1921 Peace Dollar Straight Grade

I have had this coin for about a year and I am putting together a couple of coins I would like to send off to PCGS. I want this coin graded because I think it’s a cool piece of numismatic history without spending half my paycheck lol. Although, I don’t want to send it off if it doesn’t come back as a straight grade. The coin has a scratch on the left obverse field. The third picture is with my microscope of that scratch. (Yes I know I can tell PCGS not to holder it if it doesn’t grade how I want) but I thought I could get the advice and knowledge of some members that know a hell of a lot more than me about grading before I thought about sending it off. My guess if it comes back clean would be G6 to F12 but closer to G6. Would like some thoughts on what you all think. I can post more pictures if need be. Thanks for the help.

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  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,722 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm leaning details grade with that large scratch, along with other disturbances on the obverse. Save your money on this one and keep it raw.

  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,941 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think so. And I think it would F12.
    I get wanting to have certified pieces for consistency. But raw lower grade 1921 peace dollars are plentiful. So if it were me, I wouldn't spend the $50 +/- for grading and shipping there and back for a $100 +/- coin.

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,970 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see other obv pmd scratches that are problematic to me. Plus the rim ding. IMO. Peace Roy

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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,152 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think that will details grade given the scratches near and on the face and in combination with various digs. For example, the major hit near the obverse E.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,232 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe the scratch is too dramatic and in too obvious an area for it to straight grade. However, I don't understand the reasoning given at all to invest perhaps half the value (more or less) of the coin to get it graded when there is no need to have it graded and where the coin is common enough that an already certified replacement might not be hard to find.

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Key coins sometimes get some leeway on scratches when being graded, but that scratch is a little too big and obvious.

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  • GrantuGrantu Posts: 188 ✭✭✭
    edited August 25, 2022 9:34AM

    @TomB said:
    However, I don't understand the reasoning given at all to invest perhaps half the value (more or less) of the coin to get it graded when there is no need to have it graded and where the coin is common enough that an already certified replacement might not be hard to find.

    I probably should have been more precise in my description but this coin was gifted to me by a very closed friend. So I don’t have any money into it. It not a coin where I just want to replace and upgrade for a better piece. It has slight sentimental value to me. Now yes I understand I would probably end up with $50 in shipping/grading fees. But $50 into a $100 dollar coin isn’t too bad for me.
    But that’s why I wanted to know what you guys thought because if the consensus was that is was pretty low grade or it wouldn’t straight grade then the value and time wouldn’t be worth it for me. Thanks hope this clears it up.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Grantu .... That scratch is bad, in a prime visual location. Not to mention other issues as noted above. Save your money and buy one already slabbed. Cheers, RickO

  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe, but I think it is too close to the prime focal area in front of the face to straight grade. Location, location, location!

    Tom

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,150 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Grantu said:

    @TomB said:
    However, I don't understand the reasoning given at all to invest perhaps half the value (more or less) of the coin to get it graded when there is no need to have it graded and where the coin is common enough that an already certified replacement might not be hard to find.

    I probably should have been more precise in my description but this coin was gifted to me by a very closed friend. So I don’t have any money into it. It not a coin where I just want to replace and upgrade for a better piece. It has slight sentimental value to me. Now yes I understand I would probably end up with $50 in shipping/grading fees. But $50 into a $100 dollar coin isn’t too bad for me.
    But that’s why I wanted to know what you guys thought because if the consensus was that is was pretty low grade or it wouldn’t straight grade then the value and time wouldn’t be worth it for me. Thanks hope this clears it up.

    But wouldn't it be better to have nothing into it than half its value? If you want protection beyond a flip, get a nice Capital Plastics silver dollar holder or something along those lines. I agree with everything Tom said regarding the size and location of the scratch being a problem, but even without it, I just don't see what having the coin graded would accomplish.

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  • GrantuGrantu Posts: 188 ✭✭✭

    Thanks, I didn’t think about getting a non certified holder.

  • vplite99vplite99 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Save your money - it is not worth grading, even if it straight grades.

    Vplite99
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:

    @Grantu said:

    @TomB said:
    However, I don't understand the reasoning given at all to invest perhaps half the value (more or less) of the coin to get it graded when there is no need to have it graded and where the coin is common enough that an already certified replacement might not be hard to find.

    I probably should have been more precise in my description but this coin was gifted to me by a very closed friend. So I don’t have any money into it. It not a coin where I just want to replace and upgrade for a better piece. It has slight sentimental value to me. Now yes I understand I would probably end up with $50 in shipping/grading fees. But $50 into a $100 dollar coin isn’t too bad for me.
    But that’s why I wanted to know what you guys thought because if the consensus was that is was pretty low grade or it wouldn’t straight grade then the value and time wouldn’t be worth it for me. Thanks hope this clears it up.

    But wouldn't it be better to have nothing into it than half its value? If you want protection beyond a flip, get a nice Capital Plastics silver dollar holder or something along those lines. I agree with everything Tom said regarding the size and location of the scratch being a problem, but even without it, I just don't see what having the coin graded would accomplish.

    Agree, a nice Capital Plastics silver dollar holder would be a better presentation for this coin IMO.

  • GrantuGrantu Posts: 188 ✭✭✭

    That’s what I will do then. Thanks everybody!

  • MilesWaitsMilesWaits Posts: 5,356 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good story.
    It would be a sentimental “pocket” coin for me.
    I have a few in the 21’s, accessible pricing that hold special places in bowls (with other worn silver) or pockets, if so inclined.

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