Has anyone actually found an MS68 cent from bank rolls?

SenateSaloon

I stopped by the bank today and got a couple boxes of pennies for my son and me to search. One of the boxes is 100% 2022-D Lincolns, fresh off the press. We haven't started opening them, but I'm surmising that the majority will be in the MS64-65 range, few will be MS 66, and we'd be lucky to find an MS 67 or above. Anyone with actual experience have any thoughts about our chances for a 67 or 68 from a new box of pennies? Thanks.

FlyingAl

Calling @Coinscratch

cladking

I know other people have long had luck finding very high grades moderns in rolls but my luck is abysmal. Part of the problem is I tend to overlook very clean coins unless they are also well made but both clean and well made are tough in all modern BU rolls. There have been big improvement in quality especially for one cent coins since 1999.

Finding true Gems in mint sets is like shooting fish in a barrel compared to finding them in BU rolls.

The new pennies spot very early. I'd clean anything worth saving and put them in plastic tubes in a temperature controlled environment to save them. Good luck. Remember to scan a lot of coins closely with brand new coin to spot varieties. I don't scan every coin because it would take many hours but I try to look at enough to be reasonably sure there aren't dozens of an unreported varieties.

Coinscratch

I have found several 68s but not from brand new, say 2009 and above rolls, those can hurt your eyes after a while.
Some of mine have come from new bank rolls from the 80s and 90s and others from customer wrapped rolls you can pick up at the bank.
I have found plenty of the late teen coins in MS68 quality in terms of luster but always banged up so, I'm sure it can happen but you just need to get lucky on which box you receive.
I don't know for sure but I tend to think a box of weak strikes are probably all weak. And if a box had strong strikes that there would be many. For example when I'm searching customer wrapped rolls and happen to come across numerous 2015/16s with strong luster then that tendency will remain throughout the box and then the focus changes to finding one of those with limited hits and spots.

I have reached it 7 times thus far plenty of 67/+s too but those are not the same.
The three 86s came from the same bank roll of new from 86.

Lakesammman

Didn't Blay's 1919 in MS69 come from an original roll??

Estil

Wow; you guys must be rich! I mean, I shudder to think how much it'd cost to send all those MS68 candidates in for grading/slabbing and how often you might be disappointed if it comes back as "only" an MS67 or less!

Personally I like big coins (silver quarters, halves including JFK's) best though. I know there's the all time classic Morgan/Peace dollars but wouldn't it make more sense to try to go as far back as I can on silver dimes/quarters/halves first? For example trying to get my silver GW albums almost done (believe it or not I had enough silver GW's left over to do a second set of folders) as well as most of the Ben Franklin halves? I say most because obviously they'll probably be a few rare dates/mintmarks in each group that would be out of my price range.

Oh yeah, I'd like to also get all the 90s silver eagles/maples at some point too.

GRANDAM

@cladking said:

I'd clean anything worth saving and put them in plastic tubes in a temperature controlled environment to save them.

Clean them how?

Stooge

@Lakesammman said:
Didn't Blay's 1919 in MS69 come from an original roll??

I believe that was a half roll. Amazing huh?

Zoins

@Coinscratch said:
I have found several 68s but not from brand new, say 2009 and above rolls, those can hurt your eyes after a while.
Some of mine have come from new bank rolls from the 80s and 90s and others from customer wrapped rolls you can pick up at the bank.
I have found plenty of the late teen coins in MS68 quality in terms of luster but always banged up so, I'm sure it can happen but you just need to get lucky on which box you receive.

Why do 2009 and up hurt the eyes?

@Coinscratch said:
I have reached it 7 times thus far plenty of 67/+s too but those are not the same.
The three 86s came from the same bank roll of new from 86.

Gorgeous coins!

cladking

@GRANDAM said:

@cladking said:

I'd clean anything worth saving and put them in plastic tubes in a temperature controlled environment to save them.

Clean them how?

Soak in 91% alcohol for a few hours, rinse, gently pat dry.

It's pretty effective on the old copper cents but don't have a lot of experience with the zinc.

ricko

@GRANDAM ... "Clean them how?" I would give them an acetone bath. Removes all organics and no harm to the coin. Cheers, RickO

GRANDAM

I thought acetone would discolor Copper, or is it the new copper plated zinc coins? What about nickel metal? I acetones a few Canadian Loon Dollars, nickel and 6 months later the color changed.

Coinscratch

@Zoins Not the design but they're very bright under the lights especially when they're gemmy and yellow plus, you have to look at all 50 up close.

Oldhoopster

@GRANDAM said:
I thought acetone would discolor Copper, or is it the new copper plated zinc coins? What about nickel metal? I acetones a few Canadian Loon Dollars, nickel and 6 months later the color changed.

Acetone won't react with copper. There is one scientific paper that reports if you allow An acetone soak to evaporate over time (18+ hrs) in humidity and light, acetic acid crystals could form.

These crystals could then react with the copper under humid conditions. Simple answer is to use short soaks and rinse well. Dirty acetone can also leave a residue of the junk in the solution so change it often and or use a second rinse.

https://vdocuments.site/photochemical-breakdown-of-acetone-on-copper.html

SenateSaloon

After five rolls, I’ve found maybe one MS66 and nothing better. As predicted by others, there’s a lot of spotting and small dings. Only thing of interest is a small die crack shows up in the shield rim above the PL (of “E Pluribus Unum” in about half the coins. See photo (sorry for bad photo quality)

SenateSaloon

Nice and shiny, though, with lots of luster.

TPRC

@Estil said:
Wow; you guys must be rich! I mean, I shudder to think how much it'd cost to send all those MS68 candidates in for grading/slabbing and how often you might be disappointed if it comes back as "only" an MS67 or less!

I've always wondered about this. Do you sent them in under Economy, or under Express/ I mean, if you believe.....you've got to send in as Express, right? Or do you just wait for PCGS to call and ask for more money?

rooksmith

@Estil said:
Wow; you guys must be rich! I mean, I shudder to think how much it'd cost to send all those MS68 candidates in for grading/slabbing and how often you might be disappointed if it comes back as "only" an MS67 or less!

Personally I like big coins (silver quarters, halves including JFK's) best though. I know there's the all time classic Morgan/Peace dollars but wouldn't it make more sense to try to go as far back as I can on silver dimes/quarters/halves first? For example trying to get my silver GW albums almost done (believe it or not I had enough silver GW's left over to do a second set of folders) as well as most of the Ben Franklin halves? I say most because obviously they'll probably be a few rare dates/mintmarks in each group that would be out of my price range.

Oh yeah, I'd like to also get all the 90s silver eagles/maples at some point too.

EXACTLY !!

rooksmith

Like McDonalds burgers "Billions and Billions sold!" There's bound to be a few million MS68's out there waiting to be thrown in a dresser drawer.

I had a vision of pennies being the next big collector market after the mint finally stops making them. But I would expect the pre-1959 MS68's to be more worthy of collecting.

Estil

@rooksmith said:

@Estil said:
Wow; you guys must be rich! I mean, I shudder to think how much it'd cost to send all those MS68 candidates in for grading/slabbing and how often you might be disappointed if it comes back as "only" an MS67 or less!

Personally I like big coins (silver quarters, halves including JFK's) best though. I know there's the all time classic Morgan/Peace dollars but wouldn't it make more sense to try to go as far back as I can on silver dimes/quarters/halves first? For example trying to get my silver GW albums almost done (believe it or not I had enough silver GW's left over to do a second set of folders) as well as most of the Ben Franklin halves? I say most because obviously they'll probably be a few rare dates/mintmarks in each group that would be out of my price range.

Oh yeah, I'd like to also get all the 90s silver eagles/maples at some point too.

EXACTLY !!

Ummm, "EXACTLY !!" what...?

Coinscratch

@rooksmith said:
Like McDonalds burgers "Billions and Billions sold!" There's bound to be a few million MS68's out there waiting to be thrown in a dresser drawer.

I had a vision of pennies being the next big collector market after the mint finally stops making them. But I would expect the pre-1959 MS68's to be more worthy of collecting.

That may be true but finding a pre '59 in MS68 in a roll is a big ask. I wonder when that 1919 was found?