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I made 6 CACs on my Liberty Seated Dimes

semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

I went to CAC on Wednesday and received beans on 6 out of 20 coins. The 1867 has a story. I noticed its mintage of 6000, back when I was 12 and always wanted one. There had seemed to be some BU coins at auctions, but I never came across a circulated one. At 54 years of age, I purchased this one on Ebay and verified with Gerry Fortin that it was a business strike.

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  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,841 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They look really nice!

    Mr_Spud

  • CrustyCrusty Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great coins @semikeycollector. CAC is not easy on Seated material so 6/20 is not bad at all!

  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,575 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They all look really nice and are far better than typically found.

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  • CommemDudeCommemDude Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All nice original looking pieces, I'm not sure how the stickers help on circulated coins, and I'm very curious about the 14 out of 20 that failed to please the sticker man

    Dr Mikey
    Commems and Early Type
  • rkprkp Posts: 444 ✭✭✭

    The 1863-S and 1865-S are AWESOME! I also collect seated dimes in PCGS VF CAC. Gerry Fortin is extremely knowledgeable, and super helpful and fair. Congrats on the results!

  • Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 5,910 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Love these, especially the 1866 in G6 that beaned, I love to see G6-F12 coins with CAC stickers, they are very hard to find. I have a few and folks say why? Well, education.

    Best, SH

    My online coin store - https://desertmoonnm.com/
  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,506 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great coins, I especially like the 1866 and 1867 - - both are quite rare in circulated grades. Congrats!

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭✭✭

    6 out of 6 CAC on common date Morgans - OK, no big deal. 6 out of 6 CAC on scarce/rare date Seated material - wow! I really like the 1865-S in particular.

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,260 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 13, 2022 6:25PM

    WOW! Those are some extremely scarce/rare dimes! Thanks for sharing!

    Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,398 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice!

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All are nice for rare dates. The 1865-S caught my eye.

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  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice range of grades that stickered. Did you get any feedback as to why the other 14 did not sticker? Did you think they would sticker or were they also somewhat questionable in your mind?

  • savitalesavitale Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very well done! It's hard to find unmolested seated dimes.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice dimes and the green beans make them even better. Cheers, RickO

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    6 CACs.

    That gotta ring to it.

  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DisneyFan said:
    Very nice range of grades that stickered. Did you get any feedback as to why the other 14 did not sticker? Did you think they would sticker or were they also somewhat questionable in your mind?

    Hi Disney Fan,

    Great question DisneyFan. Of the 14, I thought that these 8 below had a decent shot. The other 6 were a hope.

    1837 PCGS-VF35


    1840 WD PCGS-XF40 (Have only obv pic)

    1850-O crossed to PCGS AU-53

    1853-O PCGS AU-50

    1860-O PCGS VF-20

    1867-s PCGS AU-55

    1869 PCGS AU-55

    1870-s PCGS VF-25

    Let me know what you think.

  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mr_Spud said:
    They look really nice!

    Thanks Mr. Spud!

  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Crusty said:
    Great coins @semikeycollector. CAC is not easy on Seated material so 6/20 is not bad at all!

    Thanks Crusty! What have you bought lately?

  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    They all look really nice and are far better than typically found.

    Thanks Tom! This collection was put together between 1986-2018, with some breaks.

  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CommemDude said:
    All nice original looking pieces, I'm not sure how the stickers help on circulated coins, and I'm very curious about the 14 out of 20 that failed to please the sticker man

    Hi CommemDue, I answered your question and DisneyFan's below. I showed 8 other coins that I thought had a good chance of CAC. A few like the 1870-s and 1860-o are lightly struck in places as typical, so they may not have taken that into account.

  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rkp said:
    The 1863-S and 1865-S are AWESOME! I also collect seated dimes in PCGS VF CAC. Gerry Fortin is extremely knowledgeable, and super helpful and fair. Congrats on the results!

    Hi rkp, My coins are all over the place in grades. I spend as little money as possible on the more common dates and pay up as I am able on the scarcer dates.

  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @spacehayduke said:
    Love these, especially the 1866 in G6 that beaned, I love to see G6-F12 coins with CAC stickers, they are very hard to find. I have a few and folks say why? Well, education.

    Best, SH

    Hi SH,

    I can't seem to find circulated 1866 and 1867 at all. Thank you!

  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RichieURich said:
    Great coins, I especially like the 1866 and 1867 - - both are quite rare in circulated grades. Congrats!

    Thanks Rich! So glad to see you all looking well in Florida!

  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rhedden said:
    6 out of 6 CAC on common date Morgans - OK, no big deal. 6 out of 6 CAC on scarce/rare date Seated material - wow! I really like the 1865-S in particular.

    Hi Rhedden,

    I said to myself that if the 1865-s didn't CAC, then nothing will! Thank you!

  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mr1874 said:
    WOW! Those are some extremely scarce/rare dimes! Thanks for sharing!

    Hi Mr 1874, I gave up most of my collection to make a set of Seated Dimes. Thank you!

  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @asheland said:
    Very nice!

    Thanks Ashland!

  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,602 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2022 7:24AM

    All are just wonderful dimes. Love the 1867. I have always been fascinated with low mintage circulated US coinage. Well done!

    Dave

    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Barberian said:
    All are nice for rare dates. The 1865-S caught my eye.

    Thank you! I felt the 65-s had to CAC!

  • CommemDudeCommemDude Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2022 7:27AM

    The dimes that didn't get a sticker look quite nice, of course there may be cleaning hairlines or some other issue with toning that the stickerman didn't like, but I would commend you for having a good eye. I have noticed that he does not respond well to coins with gold toning, perhaps thinking they are AT and look pan-fried, like your 1867-s, but I like your coin.

    Dr Mikey
    Commems and Early Type
  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Dave99B said:
    All are just wonderful dimes. Love the 1867. I have been always been fascinated with low mintage circulated US coinage. Well done!

    Dave

    Thanks Dave! Me too!

  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CommemDude said:
    The dimes that didn't get a sticker look quite nice, of course there may be cleaning hairlines or some other issue with toning that the stickerman didn't like, but I would commend you for having a good eye.

    Thanks CommemDude! I'm not always sure what may be a second skin, but feel good about how those coins look.

  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @savitale said:
    Very well done! It's hard to find unmolested seated dimes.

    Thanks Steven! I've seen your dime set on the registry. It's awesome!

  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Very nice dimes and the green beans make them even better. Cheers, RickO

    Thanks Ricko!

  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    6 CACs.

    That gotta ring to it.

    Thanks TwoSides! Six beans more than I had :)

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,376 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice dimes indeed!

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  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 1,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oih82w8 said:
    Very nice dimes indeed!

    Thank you oih82w8!

  • You "made", LOL!

    You did not "make" (or do or contribute anything) other than fueling the collector codependency on the greed machine. And you equally insecure greed mongers that write "nice job, well done"...wtf? There is ZERO "accomplishment" here! In fact it is the polar opposite!

    Do any of you people realize what you write? You speak as if mailing a batch of coins to someone to attempt to purchase their standardless, ever changing and responsibility shunting opinion in order to validate your wounded ego is some sort of accomplishment.

    Even at that you experienced a 75% failure rate! So from me...congratulations, you proved you're an uneducated sucker that likes to advertise it.

    Maybe education and intelligent self thought instead of dependency on validation is in order?

    Crap...never mind. I forgot that would require pursuit of interpersonal pride instead of external validation.

  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2022 1:08PM

    @GiantsLover said:
    You "made", LOL!

    Weeded out using the anti-crap filter.

    Wow, here since 2021 and only 5 comment posts, not counting one closed CAC "discussion" and another one with some fake nice. 4 out the 5 below reek of pixelated sound and fury, signifying absolutely nothing. Seems like you need to find another hobby besides posting tirades. Exhibit A of your "quality social interactions" (your welcome to me 1st post):

  • CrustyCrusty Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GiantsLover said:
    You "made", LOL!

    You did not "make" (or do or contribute anything) other than fueling the collector codependency on the greed machine. And you equally insecure greed mongers that write "nice job, well done"...wtf? There is ZERO "accomplishment" here! In fact it is the polar opposite!

    Do any of you people realize what you write? You speak as if mailing a batch of coins to someone to attempt to purchase their standardless, ever changing and responsibility shunting opinion in order to validate your wounded ego is some sort of accomplishment.

    Even at that you experienced a 75% failure rate! So from me...congratulations, you proved you're an uneducated sucker that likes to advertise it.

    Maybe education and intelligent self thought instead of dependency on validation is in order?

    Crap...never mind. I forgot that would require pursuit of interpersonal pride instead of external validation.

    Who raised you? Guess your mom never taught you the golden rule.

  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GiantsLover said:

    Maybe education and intelligent self thought instead of dependency on validation is in order?

    As a new comer to the board I think you are being a little harsh. None of us are born graders. We learn as we go along, even after many years of studying our coins. For many of us we started by just trying to fill the holes. Collecting nice 100+ year old Seated coins that have been in circulation is a real challenge. Do we automatically know what is considered acceptable wear and tear at each grade level? We are not looking at pristine uncirculated or proof coins.

    Great collectors often have mentors, often dealers with connections. The amazing thing about JA is that he does not charge collectors when he does not sticker their coin. He doesn't try to sell his coins to collectors either. He does expect dealers to be more knowledgeable when they submit their coins to him and charges his fee either way.

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2022 3:24PM

    @GiantsLover said:
    You "made", LOL!

    You did not "make" (or do or contribute anything) other than fueling the collector codependency on the greed machine. And you equally insecure greed mongers that write "nice job, well done"...wtf? There is ZERO "accomplishment" here! In fact it is the polar opposite!

    Do any of you people realize what you write? You speak as if mailing a batch of coins to someone to attempt to purchase their standardless, ever changing and responsibility shunting opinion in order to validate your wounded ego is some sort of accomplishment.

    Even at that you experienced a 75% failure rate! So from me...congratulations, you proved you're an uneducated sucker that likes to advertise it.

    Maybe education and intelligent self thought instead of dependency on validation is in order?

    Crap...never mind. I forgot that would require pursuit of interpersonal pride instead of external validation.

    LOL! This is ridiculous. "Bile spill in aisle 3!"

    Lots of us are "uneducated suckers." I certainly am and I don't care who knows that.

    How are we "uneducated suckers" going to develop "intelligent self-thought" in our grading unless we submit the coin to experts?

    CAC approval/rejection is an interesting standard to study. I study CAC-stickered coins often and, being a skeptic by nature, I find a few that I feel were stickered by mistake and will copy photos of these coins. I also have a few virtually flawless circulated coins that were consequently overgraded by PCGS that CAC won't sticker no matter how nice they are. They want the PCGS grade lowered before they'll sticker it. That's not going to happen.

    I'd rather keep coins I like that would likely be rejected over stickered coins I find unattractive. However, I have made one exception for a "meh" coin in my mind (looks dipped and retoned) because it was stickered (and undergraded), and I got it at a great price. I figured I could capitalize on the respect for CAC coins in the hobby down the road :p. Other times, I focused on CAC coins at a sellers table and paid up for some really nice coins. In other words, I FED THE GREED MONSTER, lol!

    This is all part of the fun of the hobby. Why bully "uneducated suckers" trying to learn a thing or two over our happiness in picking coins CAC likes? It's like bullying those who only buy CAC stickered coins. They're usually very nice coins that would sell at a premium anyway, sticker or no sticker. There are people who pay big bucks for low-ball coins and coins in certain holders!! People collect a variety of things in many ways. To each his own. Anyway, bullying is a sign of insecurity in and of itself.

    Here's a coin I love that will never sticker because it's overgraded (PCGS VF30) according to CAC. I agree (based on the reverse) but will never resubmit it for a lower grade to gain CAC approval. I'd show a few CAC "dogs" but they're still sitting in dealer's inventories, lol.


    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2022 2:43PM

    @ElmerFusterpuck said:

    @GiantsLover said:
    You "made", LOL!

    Weeded out using the anti-crap filter.

    Wow, here since 2021 and only 5 comment posts, not counting one closed CAC "discussion" and another one with some fake nice. 4 out the 5 below reek of pixelated sound and fury, signifying absolutely nothing. Seems like you need to find another hobby besides posting tirades. Exhibit A of your "quality social interactions" (your welcome to me 1st post):

    I saw that yesterday as well but confused this guy with the other board "charmer", Silverbul, and didn't post it.

    I'm glad you'd had some coffee and posted this hilarious "quality social interaction" hypocrisy.

    I'm still laughing my ass off!!!

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,848 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 15, 2022 4:49PM

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    6 CACs.

    That gotta ring to it.

    • 6 CACs a Leaping
    • 5 Golden stickers
    • 4 Calling bluffs
    • 3 French poodles
    • 2 Turtles from the parking lot
    • and a Insect in a Pear Tree slab! :)
  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Crusty said:

    Who raised you? Guess your mom never taught you the golden rule.

    Apparently, he only got "the belt" from mom.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, just wow...

    Dave

    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,398 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm guessing GiantsLover doesn't care for CAC. :D

  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @asheland said:
    I'm guessing GiantsLover doesn't care for CAC. :D

    Looks like he got banned too!

  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭✭

    Some people just are what they appear to be, I guess.

    Semikeycollector, just wanted to login to say what an amazing group of dimes -- all of them, including the ones that didn't CAC. Nothing wrong with any, I'd love to have any one of them in my collection. Sometimes CAC will befuddle me, I can't see any of your rejects being anything but at least "B" coins for the grade (and much nicer, to me.)

    That said, you should definitely ask CAC John why they didn't earn a sticker -- either he can point out something that makes you shake your head and say "ah", or, you can agree to disagree. But please, take my sincere congrats on your eye for quality. I love them all, especially your 1867 with a story, sticking in your consciousness since childhood. That's pretty sweet. :-)

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