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"Money Laundering" at San Francisco's St. Francis Hotel...Cute Story

RichRRichR Posts: 3,870 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited August 11, 2022 7:57AM in U.S. Coin Forum

A very cute story on the history of coin washing at this famous downtown hotel.

https://www.statesman.com/story/lifestyle/travel/2016/09/04/san-francisco-hotel-runs-a-clean-money-laundering-operation/10072648007/

The volume of coins that were washed back in the day was phenomenal...tens of thousands in change each day or week...back when people actually used cash!

I did a little more digging and this man has since retired and the service (and a little piece of coin history) was ended.

Oh well...

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  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting story! As much as we dislike cleaned coins in the hobby, this was a classy idea to elevate the customer/ visitor experience in the 1930s for their fashion shows.
    I wonder how many details graded coins in slabs passed through that hotel.
    Thanks for sharing this.

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 11, 2022 9:12AM

    Mike Rowe and Dirty Jobs did a segment on cleaning coins the Fairmont. 😉🙀🦫
    Really made my skin crawl 🫠
    Or was it the St. Francis🧐

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Holsen recalls the time a Department of Justice group was meeting at the hotel, and Holsen couldn’t resist the urge to confess to money-laundering. That raised a few eyebrows until he explained and they were charmed, awarding him an FBI T-shirt."

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  • RichRRichR Posts: 3,870 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 11, 2022 11:58AM

    As a collector, I wonder how many gem SF silver (and gold?) coins dating back to the early 1900s were ruined by using Borax and ball bearings on them?

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 12, 2022 11:15AM

    All of my magnificent rainbow toned State Quarters have been washing machine finds. It's always seemed like an odd coincidence and/or mystery....... So far I've only been able to narrow the explanation down to this.......


    Coincidence? 🤔

  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    Mike Rowe and Dirty Jobs did a segment on cleaning coins the Fairmont. 😉🙀🦫
    Really made my skin crawl 🫠
    Or was it the St. Francis🧐

    Yeah that was as upsetting as the Hawaii-Five-O 1913 Liberty Nickel getting plunked in a newspaper machine 😆

  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭✭

    From what I remember they also washed the currency.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Quite the marketing gimmick.... All to prevent soiling m'ladies gloves. Surprised no one started doing this during the virus epidemic. Would have just been a waste anyway. Cheers, RickO

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 12, 2022 11:57AM

    @RichR said:
    As a collector, I wonder how many gem SF silver (and gold?) coins dating back to the early 1900s were ruined by using Borax and ball bearings on them?

    I never heard of "Ball Bearings" being used. When I hear ball bearings I think of metal balls......But.....those plastic balls used in rock tumbling/polishing cannisters?.....Definitely! But only plastic cannisters.....Borax? Never heard that either...... Liquid dish soap yes.......But......Here's a tip!.....Want to get rid of ants? Use 20 Mule Team Borax powdered detergent!.... It's cheap and bye-bye ants!.....And every other crawling, crawly, crawler!

  • RichRRichR Posts: 3,870 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Back when I was a kid...mom used Borax in the wash once...and dad immediately developed what was known as "jock itch"!

    Mom never used borax in the wash again!

  • meluaufeetmeluaufeet Posts: 764 ✭✭✭

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 12, 2022 6:39PM

    @RichR said:
    Back when I was a kid...mom used Borax in the wash once...and dad immediately developed what was known as "jock itch"!

    Mom never used borax in the wash again!

    I don't recommend it for humans...... Just for killing' bugs!!!

    Hey,....Richie......Maybe your Dad had the "Bug Down Below" and Mom was wise to it.🤷...She taught him a lesson....... Once was enough!!!!...... God Bless Mommies! They know everything..... because Mommy does the laundry!!!!🤦

  • RichRRichR Posts: 3,870 ✭✭✭✭✭

    [[Hey,....Richie......Maybe your Dad had the "Bug Down Below" and Mom was wise to it.]]

    Oh no no...in that situation, mom would have simply blown his head clean off...no ifs ands or buts!

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