Type 1 blank?
Chriscook813
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I have a copper blank without rim, 4.7 grams. Same thickness as a flying eagle but just slightly a larger diameter. I'm thinking (hoping) I have found a 1856 -64 type 1 blank. 
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"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
And what does that mean exactly ?
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"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Oh I see - you show a FE in a bezel first and then you aske about a so called "copper" blank, never mind
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Man your awful friendly. No the first pic is an modern Indian head penny on the left. In the middle is the blank and on the right is a flying eagle. It was to show the thickness.
And then I have the eagle sitting on top of the blank to show diameter.
Here is the blank
IF this was a true blank and missed the upset mill it would be slightly larger in diameter unless I'm mistaken.
Best thing is to get someone with a handheld XRF to do a scan (do a couple diff spots and record the compositions). It should average out close to 88% copper and 12% nickel.
I'm not seeing the characteristic punch and tear appearance on the edge that should be visible on a type 1 blank (assuming the blanking process was similar to the current process)
Here is better pic of edge. Very sharp
I will definitely get it on a XRF. What makes it even more intriguing is that I found it in a box passed down Teo generations with several other raw mid 1800 coins. It is definitely copper and it weights 4.7. So I'm going to definitely look into it. I just thought I'd get some input first.
Wouldn't hurt to know the exact diameter along with the weight.
Jim
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Planchets are always SMALLER than the final struck coin. Further testing is irrelevant. There is zero chance that yours is a US Mint product, sorry.
I will get that tomorrow for sure. Who knows what a blank diameter is of an flying eagle before it hit the upsetting mill? Where would I get that info?
It's a blank jonathand. Not a planchet. It doesn't have a rim!
I may not know if my blank is a slug or intended for a coin but I do know how coins are made and a blank before the upsetting mill is larger. The mill pushes in the edge creating a rim which then creates a planchet smaller than the original blank.so it is relevant!
From the picture I can see what looks like face,where do you find something like that?
Quick question for you - why would the blank be larger and THICKER than the finished coin - remember that as the bank shrinks slightly in the upsetting mill it also gets thicker.
I do not think this is a genuine mint blank, at least not based on the images. XRF testing would need to be done to be sure either way, and if the XRF tests are correct for the blank in question, it would need to be certified by a TPG.
Coin Photographer.
Kinda looks to me like a newer Jefferson nickle,off center,the face does,
That picture that appears to show a 'face' is weird. Cannot determine if it is pareidolia or image transfer from being in long term close contact with a real coin. Cheers, RickO
It’s a non-US ‘slug’
Not a US blank or planchet at all
What's the difference between a slug and a blank?
The term slug is not associated with the US mint or any mint blank or planchet
If it were a type one blank it wouldn’t be a slug
If it were a slug it wouldn’t be a type one blank
I’m just trying to say that it’s a piece of metal whose origin and original purpose will probably be impossible to provide
Does this mean that: