@Maywood said:
If PCGSPhoto can take a TrueView of a coin, anyone holding the coin in-hand can replicate that image for their own eyes to see. Taking a picture doesn't mean the images are "juiced" and I don't believe PCGS does that, enhances images. They simply take a picture which shows a coin to its best advantage. I have not owned any7 coin or medal with a PVGS TrueView image that wasn't EXACTLY as it appeared in-hand.
To my way of thinking, not using an available TrueView image is mainly due to either ignorance of its existence or laziness.
That's not entirely the case. PCGS most definitely has a recipe for hue and saturation enhancement they apply to most images. They've stated before that they use a series of automation scripts to help process. ...
These can actually be configured in-camera, which is why I laugh when people say that you don't know what you're doing if you have to do post-processing after you take coin pictures. Automation scripts are probably for cropping and compositing. I use Imagemagick scripts for compositing and some captioning.
Had a bigger reply but the forum ate it. If they are not using the native camera tools then they aren’t using the in camera adjustments. And the in camera adjustments are usually too limited. I would fully expect a standardized script setting precise colors they want in concert with the camera control is what they do.
Remember "Glamour Shots" back in the 1980's and 90's? Using heavily filtered lighting and camera angle in an effort to make the subject appear as "good as it gets" is not a new thing. To the OP... If TV's are available, I also don't understand why they wouldn't be used in the listing. Seems counterintuitive to me. But, it definitely opens the door for those that know how to look up a cert number. Here's one that didn't have the TV in the ad (seller pics and TV):
Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;
I am very OK with just seeing the sellers photos as long as they provide the Cert number. I can always, and will always, go to the NGC or PCGS site to verify the coin (Same with CAC) and if there is a true view great - just another check. In fact I use the PCGS auction archive & cert verification to see if the piece showed up in some other auctions that may have a different photos and descriptions.
What bothers me the most ... are dealers or auction houses that do not post the cert number. i guess they like you calling or emailing them to get it
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Had a bigger reply but the forum ate it. If they are not using the native camera tools then they aren’t using the in camera adjustments. And the in camera adjustments are usually too limited. I would fully expect a standardized script setting precise colors they want in concert with the camera control is what they do.
Remember "Glamour Shots" back in the 1980's and 90's? Using heavily filtered lighting and camera angle in an effort to make the subject appear as "good as it gets" is not a new thing. To the OP... If TV's are available, I also don't understand why they wouldn't be used in the listing. Seems counterintuitive to me. But, it definitely opens the door for those that know how to look up a cert number. Here's one that didn't have the TV in the ad (seller pics and TV):
Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
...and another:
Sellers Pics:
TrueView:
Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
Likely just reflecting a big black camera lens.
I am very OK with just seeing the sellers photos as long as they provide the Cert number. I can always, and will always, go to the NGC or PCGS site to verify the coin (Same with CAC) and if there is a true view great - just another check. In fact I use the PCGS auction archive & cert verification to see if the piece showed up in some other auctions that may have a different photos and descriptions.
What bothers me the most ... are dealers or auction houses that do not post the cert number. i guess they like you calling or emailing them to get it
OMG ... My Mother was Right about Everything!
I wake up with a Good Attitude Every Day. Then … Idiots Happen!