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Grading excersise, Morgan style, Obverse only, now with Reverse! UPDATED!

SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,507 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 17, 2022 3:46PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Ok, here's a grading excersise for you all. Grade this coin, from the obverse only.

Oh sure, you want more information. But realistically, the obverse seems to hold about 85% of the total grade. So....grade this one.

I'll ask you to grade the rest of it later. And then we can talk about it more.... :p

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  • ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF-20. Nice circ color, but some marks are just in the wrong place.

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 17, 2022 7:45AM

    Very high VF to very low XF. Probably 35. The missing eyebrow convinces me it can't go higher. Has some scratches and a rim ding that could push it to details if there are more than the photograph presents.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks about VF30

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  • coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF35-XF40 but cleaned

  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I also think VF Details Cleaned

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  • No HeadlightsNo Headlights Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF 30. Marks on the rims may indicate it was once in a bezel. Would probably straight grade. Not a coin I would purchase.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,008 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ll go with a straight grade 35.

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  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,618 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF-35 Cleaned

  • SlickCoinsSlickCoins Posts: 658 ✭✭✭

    RPD 1 & 8? maybe all of them just can't see from this angle, straight grade 45.
    JMO
    Thanks for sharing :)

  • SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,507 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does this change your opinion????

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  • SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,507 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Apparently not

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,154 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would feel VF details due to damage.
    Jim


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  • BigAlBigAl Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭

    79cc capped die, vf 30. Not sure if that’s a repair job b/t the E and D, but I think it’s ok, good luck.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a 35 to me... and the MM would not change my opinion.... Cheers, RickO

  • coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Still think it was lightly dipped and if not, would probably get an XF 40 since the 79CC obverses were kind of weak.

  • Joe_360Joe_360 Posts: 1,738 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The close up have me think'n VF30

  • al410al410 Posts: 2,402 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 19, 2022 9:43AM

    From the obverse I was going to say 35 or maybe 40, now the mint mark is really concerning. Actually If I was considering buying that from a picture only, the mint mark would cause me to pass.
    Al

  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF35 or so. Looks like a capped die CC. Nice coin.

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,219 ✭✭✭✭✭

    maybe vf35?

  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I still think it's a solid 35. The reverse strikes me as a tad better than that but the obverse get's the money.

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  • sweetwillietsweetwilliet Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭

    I think it is close to a straight grade versus net. Obverse looks 30, reverse looks 40 to me. Possible damage to eagle’s left upper wing/viewer’s right and some minor rim bumps. I’ll go with VF details due to damage, but my straight grade guess would be 30.

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  • Joe_360Joe_360 Posts: 1,738 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Any update on this one?

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The reverse can be confirmation of the obverse in terms of grade, it definitely carries some weight. On money grades I wouldn't push your luck, why should the graders bump the coin up unless it helps the grading service? Shot EF, what's going on with the mm overstrike?

  • SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,507 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    The reverse can be confirmation of the obverse in terms of grade, it definitely carries some weight. On money grades I wouldn't push your luck, why should the graders bump the coin up unless it helps the grading service? Shot EF, what's going on with the mm overstrike?

    "mm overstrike" is called a capped die. Major variety for this year.

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  • SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,507 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Joe_360 said:
    Any update on this one?

    It just hit grading. I expect an answer, mmmm...., say.....October? I'll hope for September tho! ;)

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  • Update? Good thread !

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