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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I could see either UNC Details for damage or a net at 60.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i'd guess a 2 or 3 but i didn't scour the images for problems. doubt it is a slider.

    doesn't appear to be a risky seller other than private listings.

    i'd also look into recently sold items since feedback is private. perhaps those external ebay feedback sites have some info?

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’d grade it approximately MS62, but have some concerns about the reverse marks beneath the NITE in UNITED.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If not 'details' then I would say a 61 - pictures not very good, expect it may be worse than we see.... Cheers, RickO

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,405 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's hard to tell from the pics. I'd guess 61 or 62. Is that a PCI slab?

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    NNC

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,405 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    NNC

    In other words, treat it like it's a raw coin.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A couple more pictures:




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    Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,615 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 4, 2022 5:59AM

    Ms60 / MS61 at best. Needs dip. Pass

    Is that pvc on it?

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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks more AU with those images

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cougar1978 said:
    Ms60 / MS61 at best. Needs dip. Pass

    Is that pvc on it?

    Here are a couple scans.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,077 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 4, 2022 11:36AM

    It actually looks a lot better than the one I got from DW numismatics years ago. I read his "how to collect type III double eagles" where he spoke about the 1878-1880 $20s being a lot rarer than thought which is certainly true with the 79-s and the 1880-P coins in unc..

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭✭✭

    61.

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    61 tops. Looks like an NNC holder, so they probably put it at 65.
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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,077 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I retract my previous details grade and call it a 61.

    Young Numismatist, Coin Photographer.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I sent the coin to ICG under the crossover option; they said that though it was uncirculated it was not a commercial Unc. due to too much field activity, etc. so refused to cross it at MS60.

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    telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @logger7 said:
    I sent the coin to ICG under the crossover option; they said that though it was uncirculated it was not a commercial Unc. due to too much field activity, etc. so refused to cross it at MS60.

    HUH? How does one acknowledge that a coin is uncirculated and then state they're not willing to grade it at least MS60, the lowest possible mint state level?


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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,035 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @telephoto1 said:

    @logger7 said:
    I sent the coin to ICG under the crossover option; they said that though it was uncirculated it was not a commercial Unc. due to too much field activity, etc. so refused to cross it at MS60.

    HUH? How does one acknowledge that a coin is uncirculated and then state they're not willing to grade it at least MS60, the lowest possible mint state level?

    Perhaps for the same reason that many uncirculated and Proof coins receive details grades (for scratches, stains, damage, etc.).

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    tcollectstcollects Posts: 838 ✭✭✭✭

    fUNCly

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,077 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 16, 2022 9:05AM

    The grader said they were all agreed; so in an NNC holder, or there may be concern because they may not want to take the chance if the edge is being hidden where there is an issue. NGC does not accept non-PCGS coins for crossover probably due to matters like that. It has to be cracked out.

    My understanding of MS60 is that it is a coin with virtually no eye appeal that is close to being damaged or has some major defect that keeps it in that holder.

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,323 ✭✭✭✭✭

    61-62

    Collector, occasional seller

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    MrBlusterMrBluster Posts: 320 ✭✭✭

    62

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,405 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see luster disturbance in the fields, so I'll guess AU58.

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