Branch mints
Unclearod
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Unclearod
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Unclearod
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Yes. New Orleans was one of them.
Next time, you might try a less informative thread title.
Sorry. It's not letting me post anymore pics for some reason. I have a couple of morgans that many people have seen and most think all are branch mint. 1879-o 1883-o And a 1878-s. Figured I post some eye candy of some of my collection and also would like your thoughts. I'll post more when it let's me
Anything with a mint mark is, by definition, a branch mint. There isn't really a question here.
Do you know where the mint mark is located?
Of course now that you've deleted the reverse picture, this thread makes no sense to anyone.
My hunch is that he was trying to speak of branch mint Proofs, but hopefully, that wasn’t the case.😉
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This is one genuinely mystifying thread.
Wait a minute. Is it a game? We post a photo of a branch mint and people guess which one it is, right? I'll go first.
C'mon people! Chop chop!
Now who has a pic of Dahlonega? Is that spelled right?
New Orleans and Charlotte.
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Okay, but no fair right clicking on the pics people!
J/K, I know you people know these.
Just trying to make a thread here.
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This thread got more interesting when it went off topic. Lol
Possibly. That occurred to me. But there was a second picture and actual text before he edited it.
What happened to that grand Dahlonega mint building? Burnt down by dem damn yankees I suppose? How do you even burn down a masonry structure. I have a lot of questions.
Sorry. It wouldnt let me put pics up yesterday. Anybody know what format the images have to be in inorder to download?? If I can get that fixed then I'll show u ladies some ladies
Anything with a mint mark is, by definition, a branch mint. There isn't really a question here.
Do you know where the mint mark is located?
🤣 thanks for the warm welcome. I probably wouldn't have that coin pictured in my possession if I wasn't aware of where the mark was. As stated, im having uploading issues and will gladly post more than just the tip to get u haters hating hard soon
Will you clarify what you mean? If they have those mint marks then they are indeed from a branch mint. This doesn’t require anyone’s opinion.
Are you saying they are proof coins?
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Then I don't understand the "most think are branch mint" comment unless you mean "branch mint proofs" (there is no such thing) or some other missing noun.
You joined here 19 months ago @Unclearod and first posted yesterday,
so, I offer you a belated 'welcome to the forum'
and await your next post.
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I should've been more precise for some of u. Branch mint PROOFS! If I can get the pics up. I didn't start the thread to know about mint marks or where there located lol. I've been through millions of morgans so save the run around booty chatter for another day. Just sharing pics and I guess no thoughts now being that ( bears sit in the woods only if there sitting in the woods where their Sitting if someone saw them sitting)
Never fails.
Just asking you to clarify because your initial post didn’t make sense. Why would you think anyone would understand you meant branch mint proofs?
Your demeanor comes across as anything but humble. Nobody here owes you anything. If you’d like opinions or thoughts on your coins I’m sure you’ll get those, but don’t lash out at people just asking you to be more clear.
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@Unclearod... Welcome aboard. We look forward to the rest of your pictures. It takes a couple of days to get cleared for picture posting. Cheers, RickO
The 1879 that you posted doesn’t in any way resemble a Proof. It doesn’t even look like an example that would be designated “PL”. If you’ve “been through millions of morgans”, you must not spend much time doing anything else.😉
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There's no such thing. The branch mints lack the presses to make actual proofs. The 79-o does not even appear to be proof-like much less an actual proof. [See Roger Burdette on the subject]
"More precise". LMAO. You couldn't have been less precise without leaving all the words out.
Let me summarize: there are no real branch mint proofs. But of the handful recognized, yours looks nothing like them.
[I won't comment on your attitude, but I will join most of the forum in simply ignoring you. ]
The amount of misinformation you've posted in just a few contributions compares only with your ignorant, snarky, petulant attitude. Colossal train wreck.
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No such thing as a Branch mint proof!!???? And miss information???? Hahahahaj. I guess PCGS and NGC are train wrecks to!???? Ur stating that PCGS and NGC are frauds denying that they "Branch Mint Proofs" exist All because i didn't state proof. Or ass hurt because of past grading relations it sounds. Did u chime into the other threads where similar discussions have happened and state your fictional statement. Must be God of morgans. And what mis information MS66 are u yapping about.
And to Jm whatever.
""""""Let me summarize: there are no real branch mint proofs. But of the handful recognized, yours looks nothing like them.
[See Roger Burdette on the subject]"""""""
So is there not such thing??? Or there are a couple??? Ur statement contradicts itself there
Just because someone disagrees with a designation used by NGC and/or PCGS doesn’t mean the person is stating that they’re “frauds”. And his comments had nothing to do with “past grading relations” or the fact that you omitted the word “proof” in your confusing post.
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Not even proof like? Lol. Anyways just realized my first post text was somehow deleted. I still cant post so Here is a link to my YouTube . I've up loaded a couple videos. Took her out of holster for video. Coin hasn't been cleaned. Went from mint bag to safe 45 years ago The scratch marks are from being bagged. Starting to finally oxidize https://youtube.com/channel/UCXWrvkTNJhxpyKPxcbUF2OA
1879-0 and 1883-0. The 83 is getting regaraded by ngc.
You said
Went from mint bag to safe 45 years ago The scratch marks are from being bagged
If it's a branch mint proof, how did it end up in a mint bag with circulation strikes?
Also the 83 die has been die matched with 66 point conformation of same die. Not sure if it was the 79 or the 83 that has its own separate die used but from my research 1 is apparently stand alone
Pages 210-211 of Wayne Miller's " The Morgan and Peace dollar textbook" alot the morgan bmf's are heavily bagmarked or pocket scratched up
That’s a question that begs an answer which realistically, can’t be provided.😉
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Honestly yes. I correct myself. I can't say the coin wasn't cleaned before it's was in my family's hands. Thanks
The heavily bag marked 83-O that you reference above, is the Carter specimen, and Miller believes it to be a proof-like business strike, not a proof
In addition, Miller says nothing about coins being placed into bags destined for circulation. On the contrary, he says that the coins were handled individually and not allowed to touch each other. Hardly a scenario were one would get tossed into a production bag.
Miller's book is nearly 40 years old and in the section on Branch mint proofs he states that much of the early authentication was done by Walter Breen.
Miller writes
"Walter Breen is possibly the greatest scholar in the history of numismatics."
Over time, the body of knowledge grows and the understanding of "branch mint proofs" change. As you've obviously read Wayne Miller's book, the amount of credibility and respect he gives Breen is tremendous (as well did most numismatists of the time). Current scholarship has discredited some of Breen's work due to poor research and making up facts. His numismatic credibility is dubious at best (personal life notwithstanding). Hardly someone to use as the authority (according to Miller) on branch mint proofs
With all due respect, this coin doesn’t even remotely look like a proof.
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Ashland thanks for commenting! did u see the video. And its branch mint Proof. Not just "proof". There's a difference. And that coin pictured is one of the better morgans you'll ever see. A closer look would reveal more detail than your average morgan with heavy double striking. Alot of the scratches are from the case and some. Video shows a closer look mint spater
Thanks again
And to Oldhoop. Well I guess "if they are real coins inwitch pcgs and ngc clearly state and have listed real" it's always a possibility that a couple got tossed into circulation over time accidentally then stored way in a bag for years by a horder or bank. Then Into my hands, correct? It's also stated in both books of the great possibility of some BMP's mistakenly tossed into circulation.
If you even suspect, much less, are sure that you have a branch mint proof, instead of arguing with forum members, why don’t you spend your money and submit the coin for grading? If you haven’t already done that, it tells me that you know it’s not one, but want to live the dream that it is, while ignoring reality.
Edited to add: Either that or you’re just having fun trolling.
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You said
It's also stated in both books of the great possibility of some BMP's mistakenly tossed into circulation
I didn't see anything in Miller's book that said it was a GREAT possibility. He actually said they were specially handled which would preclude getting tossed in a mint bag.
I suppose nothing is impossible, but even assuming only a few dozen exist, what are the chances of a collector actually owning such a rarity, THEN tossing it into a mint bag for you to find later? I would think the probability would make lotto odds seem reasonable.
To paraphrase the 14th Century Franciscan Friar and Philosopher, William of Ockham, the simplest explanation is the best explanation.
Then add to the above that the coin doesn’t look at all special.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I think any members looking to convince the OP of anything would likely be wasting their time.
The coin is obviously not a branch mint proof, among many reasons. The OP also demonstrates a lack of knowledge of the proof making process and seems to be unwilling to learn, which seems to be a common trait among recent trolls.
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Not a branch mint proof.
One of the bmfs list on ha.com
No one has convinced me or said anything but bs and a " nope not a branch mint proof. All of your reasons please!!! I would love to here. Troll on this platform? Not even sure really why I or a troll would waste their time honestly. " He seems un will to learn " lol. U sounds like a 2 bit cop/CULT 2nd grader trying to tell someone that there helping when u havent said shiiiiii except "NOT IT" INSTEAD OF THAT BOOTY CHATTER, WHY DONT U EXPLAIN WHY MR. EXPERT
All u have to do is listen ' not it" cas closed right!
Not that any of u have owned one to know. U know what I know pretty much because of extreamly limited date. Next
Yep, and here's another one.
Yours still isn't one.
Send it to PCGS and get it graded.
Have you tried to VAM your coin yet?
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I will quote this as it answers everything you need to know. It's worth repeating.
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