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Don't like my negative points for my PO1 1916 SLQ

I recently bought a 1916 Standing Liberty Quarter in PCGS PO1 CAC for my 1st year type set. I had resorted to having a 1917 in my type set, settling for 2nd year. But I saw this and had to have it. A grail of mine, even in PO1. Probably the coin I am most excited to own in my entire collection. Got the coin, added it to my registry set, and it gets me -14 points. Negative!

I understand how the point system works with grade and rarity, but I feel my 1916 SLQ in PO1 CAC is alot cooler than my 1831 VF30 Capped Bust quarter. Yet my 1831 gets me 150 pts and the 1916 SLQ gets -14 pts. Just had to share my opinion, carry on. :smile:

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  • WilliamFWilliamF Posts: 832 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is a little frustrating, some PO1 coins are really cool, could we get some pictures please? :)

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  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭✭

    Negative points sounds very odd.

  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't understand how having the coin is somehow WORSE than not owning it... I guess I should say my set is better than a set of PO01s then, since I don't have any coins!

  • WilliamFWilliamF Posts: 832 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think that is bad at all, in fact that's better looking than a lot of my SLQ's that I would consider PO1-F2...
    It's got the gold shield and a CAC too! Something is wrong, that should not be getting negative points.

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  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭✭

    PCGS’ Set Registry folks have been invited to comment here.

  • basetsbbasetsb Posts: 508 ✭✭✭✭

    I'm still waiting to come across a dateless 16 in a cull box...

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  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,887 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @basetsb said:
    I'm still waiting to come across a dateless 16 in a cull box...

    Me too!

  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭✭

    Progress…
    We may get a response soon. ;)

  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭✭

    @Rob9874 - Check messages.

  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭✭

    I asked Paulina again today if this issue would receive attention.

  • WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭✭✭

    prob common knowledge ... but I dont have it. what's the "tell" to differentiate a dateless 1916 T1 from a 1917 T1 ... I'm sure there must be something in the design.

  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,431 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WingedLiberty1957 said:
    prob common knowledge ... but I dont have it. what's the "tell" to differentiate a dateless 1916 T1 from a 1917 T1 ... I'm sure there must be something in the design.

    The head interrupts the border design on a 1916, which the 1917 does not

  • WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you Connectcoin. Learned something.

  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭✭

    From PCGS:

    Upon further review of this inquiry, the -14 is actually correct.

    For the calculation of this set, being that it has deductions, goes as follows:

    (Grade Po1 - 3 no suffix deduction) x 7weight

    -2 x 7 = -14

  • VasantiVasanti Posts: 425 ✭✭✭✭

    How does one see the points that they have for coins in a registry set?

  • Looking at the 1916 Quarter, I'm amazed that PCGS graded it a Pr01! If that coin was cracked out of its holder and submitted raw, I would wager it would come back in an Fr2 holder 5 out of 5 times! Now, if you wanted a higher grade that's great, but if you are happy with the Pr01 + CAC then you have the right coin... Congrats!

  • TrampTramp Posts: 651 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vasanti said:
    How does one see the points that they have for coins in a registry set?

    It should show the points when adding the coin for the first time. To see it again you would need to remove the coin and re-add.

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BozoOnBus said:
    Looking at the 1916 Quarter, I'm amazed that PCGS graded it a Pr01! If that coin was cracked out of its holder and submitted raw, I would wager it would come back in an Fr2 holder 5 out of 5 times! Now, if you wanted a higher grade that's great, but if you are happy with the Pr01 + CAC then you have the right coin... Congrats!

    Yup. That coin is no PO-01 with that much bordering and edge detail. And I even think the "low ball" PO-01 buyers would pay little to no premium for the PO-01 grade because it's at no brainer FR-02 or better.

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  • Sandman70gtSandman70gt Posts: 978 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would think that the points in registry would have been:
    Grade X weight - deduction
    PO1 X 7 = 7 - 3 deduct total 4.
    A 1916 quarter shouldn't have any deduction.

    Still frustrating to have a rare coin that gives nearly no points

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