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planchet errors. you show me yours and Ill show you mine. Happy 4th

rodeo514rodeo514 Posts: 217 ✭✭✭
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Can someone comment on this 44. Is this the real deal? Do I grade this? Whats the value? Thanks



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  • rodeo514rodeo514 Posts: 217 ✭✭✭

    Also --



    Is this a strike through

  • dunkleosteus430dunkleosteus430 Posts: 476 ✭✭✭✭

    Both look like PMD -- 1st is a dent/ding and 2nd looks like it got clamped between two pieces of metal, if both marks are incuse.

    Young Numismatist

  • rodeo514rodeo514 Posts: 217 ✭✭✭

    gotcha

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,894 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All our damaged coins and are not errors, I’m sorry to say

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,894 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FredWeinberg said:
    All are damaged coins and are not errors, I’m sorry to say

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yep... Both coins are PMD... Cheers, RickO

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Obvious PMD. I'd keep them as reference pieces. If you study the minting process you'll understand why a mint error could not look like that.

    I'd also suggest taking some tools, etc. and smacking/cutting some coins. You'll learn quite a bit that way. You should be able to duplicate the damage you see here.

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,231 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 1, 2022 7:40AM

    This one is not my coin, but is more like what you're looking for:

    This one is my coin and is a 1796 Large Cent struck on a clipped planchet

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,631 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Or an extreme example.

    If you are interested in error coins you should buy a few books about them and learn about the minting process. This will make it much easier to determine what is genuinely an error or what has been man made. There are some tough errors to figure out even if you know the minting process. Knowledge is king.

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  • rodeo514rodeo514 Posts: 217 ✭✭✭

    And how is this done

  • rodeo514rodeo514 Posts: 217 ✭✭✭

    Lamination?


  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm no error expert but the 1941 looks like a lamination flaw that is flaking off. The 1951-D looks like it may have been struck through...

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,398 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 4, 2022 12:03PM

    @gumby1234 said:
    Or an extreme example.

    If you are interested in error coins you should buy a few books about them and learn about the minting process. This will make it much easier to determine what is genuinely an error or what has been man made. There are some tough errors to figure out even if you know the minting process. Knowledge is king.

    Awesome coin! I love that it has a full date, IGWT and States of America! :+1:

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  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,793 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not sure if this qualifies or not. I'm thinking planchet flaw or strike through. Could be PMD as well.

    Trade $'s
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,398 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 4, 2022 12:17PM

    @gumby1234 said:
    @Zoins I have a nice lamination on a cent also. It was in a Coin World article in 1981.

    Wow! That's really amazing! Thanks for sharing it! Congrats :+1:

    I need to start submitting some articles to Coin World :)

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,631 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 4, 2022 12:18PM

    @Zoins

    One of my favorites of all time is this clad layer detached after strike. I've never even seen another one.

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  • isamucoinandcurrencyisamucoinandcurrency Posts: 114 ✭✭✭

    Hi everyone. Happy 4th. I have a 1960 D Lincoln that looks like a brass planchet. Is that possible? Also have a 1961 Lincoln on a planchet that is about half thickness. There is mechanical damage to the reverse that did not distort the Lincoln Memorial or the obverse, so it isn't like penny on the train tracks thin. The diameter is correct. I still don't have photo posting permission so I can't upload yet.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 4, 2022 1:25PM

    @gumby1234 said:
    @Zoins I have a nice lamination on a cent also. It was in a Coin World article in 1981.

    Really nice coin! Do you have a copy of the article you can post?

  • jt88jt88 Posts: 3,099 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,631 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Oakstar I do not have one. I've been searching for Coin World from 4/17/81 so that I could have it. No luck yet. It was in the error section.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,398 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    @Oakstar I do not have one. I've been searching for Coin World from 4/17/81 so that I could have it. No luck yet. It was in the error section.

    Perhaps Mike @Byers or @FredWeinberg would have a copy?

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  • jt88jt88 Posts: 3,099 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • jt88jt88 Posts: 3,099 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like this one.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    @Oakstar I do not have one. I've been searching for Coin World from 4/17/81 so that I could have it. No luck yet. It was in the error section.

    Perhaps Mike @Byers or @FredWeinberg would have a copy?

    Yes, or maybe Mike Diamond or John Wexler. @gumby1234- do you remember who wrote the article?

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,903 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "you show me yours and Ill show you mine."

    I'm not fallin' for that again..... last time I went to jail. ;)

  • isamucoinandcurrencyisamucoinandcurrency Posts: 114 ✭✭✭

    [brass.jpg]

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,398 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @Zoins said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    @Oakstar I do not have one. I've been searching for Coin World from 4/17/81 so that I could have it. No luck yet. It was in the error section.

    Perhaps Mike @Byers or @FredWeinberg would have a copy?

    Yes, or maybe Mike Diamond or John Wexler. @gumby1234- do you remember who wrote the article?

    Are Mike or John on the forums?

    I at mentioned Mike and Fred, hoping they would see this and respond.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,631 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 4, 2022 2:04PM

    @Zoins No idea who wrote the article.

    Wish i had kept the thousands of old Coin Worlds. But too much space taken up.

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @Zoins said:

    @gumby1234 said:
    @Oakstar I do not have one. I've been searching for Coin World from 4/17/81 so that I could have it. No luck yet. It was in the error section.

    Perhaps Mike @Byers or @FredWeinberg would have a copy?

    Yes, or maybe Mike Diamond or John Wexler. @gumby1234- do you remember who wrote the article?

    Are Mike or John on the forums?

    I don't know.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,398 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 4, 2022 2:23PM

    @gumby1234 said:
    @Zoins No idea who wrote the article.

    Wish i had kept the thousands of old Coin Worlds. But too much space taken up.

    Coin World is on the Newman Numismatic Portal so it may be worth searching there. But unfortunately they don't show the entire article so it may be hard to use.

    One thing I really like about Mint Error News is that all the articles are online and free so it's easy to find articles on coins years or decades later.

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  • rodeo514rodeo514 Posts: 217 ✭✭✭

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    "you show me yours and Ill show you mine."

    I'm not fallin' for that again..... last time I went to jail. ;)

    Don't do that!

  • rodeo514rodeo514 Posts: 217 ✭✭✭

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    "you show me yours and Ill show you mine."

    I'm not fallin' for that again..... last time I went to jail. ;)

    Don't do that!> @gumby1234 said:

    @Oakstar I do not have one. I've been searching for Coin World from 4/17/81 so that I could have it. No luck yet. It was in the error section.

    @gumby1234 try this link.it appears to be an Archive of the old issues dating back

  • rodeo514rodeo514 Posts: 217 ✭✭✭

    https://archive.org/details/pub_coin-world

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,631 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins I tried looking thru NNP but hard to navigate and they only show a page or two from the issue. I didn't locate what I was looking for. Even put a shout out for it on the BST with no results.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,631 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jt88 are those PVC blobs on the 78 Canadian?

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unfortunate, I believe CoinWorld Digital (Weekly and Monthly) only goes back to 2013.

    https://www.coinworld.com/

  • jt88jt88 Posts: 3,099 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    @jt88 are those PVC blobs on the 78 Canadian?

    Not sure but could be.

  • justmenutty72justmenutty72 Posts: 394 ✭✭✭

    Here’s a nifty error coin, and it happens to be a variety too. 1936 DDO Die #2 with a planchet lamination.

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,631 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's another interesting cent error.

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