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Real or Fake,,,,,,ebay auction.

AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

Seller indicates the coins he has are inherited and his father was a collector. I sent a note as to have him take this coin to a shop for a look see. He's in Indy. Here's the auction. Real or fake?
bob :)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/314050560795?

Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fake.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pictures are terrible, but it looks fake...Cheers, RickO

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    fake

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fake

  • vplite99vplite99 Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Has the look of a Chinese counterfeit. Poor pictures, 0 feedback, what could go wrong?

    Vplite99
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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,984 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a very poor counterfeit.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    bogus counerfiet

  • WilliamFWilliamF Posts: 831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 27, 2022 9:27AM

    0 feedback, 0 sales, starts out with an 1882 CC (one of the most common counterfeit dates) MAJOR red flag. coin doesn't even matter as much in this case as everything else points to counterfeit and deception.

    Although, yes, the coin is fake :)

    ."It's a dangerous business... going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to" -JRR Tolkien_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Outstanding BST transactions as a seller, buyer and trader with: ----- mustanggt, Kliao, claudewill87, MWallace, paesan, mpbuck82, moursund, basetsb, lordmarcovan, JWP, Coin hunter 4, COINS MAKE CENTS, PerryHall, Aspie_Rocco, Braddick, DBSTrader2, SanctionII, Histman, The_Dinosaur_Man, jesbroken, CentSearcher ------ANA Member #3214817

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,984 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a very poor counterfeit.> @WilliamF said:

    0 feedback, 0 sales, starts out with an 1882 CC (one of the most common counterfeit dates) MAJOR red flag. coin doesn't even matter as much in this case as everything else points to counterfeit and deception.

    Although, yes, the coin is fake :)

    I disagree - the coin, itself, matters far more than those other considerations.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • WilliamFWilliamF Posts: 831 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    That's a very poor counterfeit.> @WilliamF said:

    0 feedback, 0 sales, starts out with an 1882 CC (one of the most common counterfeit dates) MAJOR red flag. coin doesn't even matter as much in this case as everything else points to counterfeit and deception.

    Although, yes, the coin is fake :)

    I disagree - the coin, itself, matters far more than those other considerations.

    Perhaps for someone who doesn't know the series it would be wise to study the coin first and these other red flags would be secondary, but for me personally the coin itself doesn't even need scrutinizing, there's no need to even look twice, it's so bad...
    I guess it just depends on how you look at it, but different things are important to different people :)

    ."It's a dangerous business... going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to" -JRR Tolkien_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Outstanding BST transactions as a seller, buyer and trader with: ----- mustanggt, Kliao, claudewill87, MWallace, paesan, mpbuck82, moursund, basetsb, lordmarcovan, JWP, Coin hunter 4, COINS MAKE CENTS, PerryHall, Aspie_Rocco, Braddick, DBSTrader2, SanctionII, Histman, The_Dinosaur_Man, jesbroken, CentSearcher ------ANA Member #3214817

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had the seller weigh: just over 19 grams. He'll be removing the listing when he gets access to his computer again (I assume he's at work).
    bob :)

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    That's a very poor counterfeit.> @WilliamF said:

    0 feedback, 0 sales, starts out with an 1882 CC (one of the most common counterfeit dates) MAJOR red flag. coin doesn't even matter as much in this case as everything else points to counterfeit and deception.

    Although, yes, the coin is fake :)

    I disagree - the coin, itself, matters far more than those other considerations.

    Agree, and I have purchased a few good deals from zero and low feedback sellers over the years

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,984 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WilliamF said:

    @MFeld said:
    That's a very poor counterfeit.> @WilliamF said:

    0 feedback, 0 sales, starts out with an 1882 CC (one of the most common counterfeit dates) MAJOR red flag. coin doesn't even matter as much in this case as everything else points to counterfeit and deception.

    Although, yes, the coin is fake :)

    I disagree - the coin, itself, matters far more than those other considerations.

    Perhaps for someone who doesn't know the series it would be wise to study the coin first and these other red flags would be secondary, but for me personally the coin itself doesn't even need scrutinizing, there's no need to even look twice, it's so bad...
    I guess it just depends on how you look at it, but different things are important to different people :)

    If you know the series/coins - and it sounds like you do - the other things don’t matter. And if you don’t know the series/coins, you shouldn’t be bidding, anyway, so the other things shouldn’t matter. Either way, it is (or should be) about the coin.😉

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • WilliamFWilliamF Posts: 831 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @WilliamF said:

    @MFeld said:
    That's a very poor counterfeit.> @WilliamF said:

    0 feedback, 0 sales, starts out with an 1882 CC (one of the most common counterfeit dates) MAJOR red flag. coin doesn't even matter as much in this case as everything else points to counterfeit and deception.

    Although, yes, the coin is fake :)

    I disagree - the coin, itself, matters far more than those other considerations.

    Perhaps for someone who doesn't know the series it would be wise to study the coin first and these other red flags would be secondary, but for me personally the coin itself doesn't even need scrutinizing, there's no need to even look twice, it's so bad...
    I guess it just depends on how you look at it, but different things are important to different people :)

    If you know the series/coins - and it sounds like you do - the other things don’t matter. And if you don’t know the series/coins, you shouldn’t be bidding, anyway, so the other things shouldn’t matter. Either way, it is (or should be) about the coin.😉

    I understand where you are coming from, one of the reasons it is very important to me to buy from a well-reputed person is because I've taken too many chances on low feedback/sales sellers and gotten burned, so I'm pretty wary of those sellers, on the other hand, everybody has to start somewhere! :)
    It's all a big juggling act :)

    ."It's a dangerous business... going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to" -JRR Tolkien_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Outstanding BST transactions as a seller, buyer and trader with: ----- mustanggt, Kliao, claudewill87, MWallace, paesan, mpbuck82, moursund, basetsb, lordmarcovan, JWP, Coin hunter 4, COINS MAKE CENTS, PerryHall, Aspie_Rocco, Braddick, DBSTrader2, SanctionII, Histman, The_Dinosaur_Man, jesbroken, CentSearcher ------ANA Member #3214817

  • goldengolden Posts: 9,830 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Reported.

  • burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Listing is gone.

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