Anyway. This is what fake gold coins look like.
Weiss
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I'll admit those would probably fool me.
Collector, occasional seller
If they were scattered aboot in that pile o morgans it would make a cool wallpaper, fake or not.
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Fake or not, they sure are pretty.
Did they test as real gold, but as counterfeit US coins?
Indian Head $10 Gold Date Set Album
Yes, these are real gold. Ironically 91.7% pure "crown" gold rather than the 90% pure gold they are supposed to be.
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What is crown gold? Used for teeth?
From Wikipedia:
Crown gold is a 22 karat (kt) gold alloy used in the crown coin introduced in England in 1526 (by Henry VIII).[1] In this alloy, the proportion of gold is 22 parts out of 24 (91.667% gold)—and is appreciably less prone to wear than the softer 23 kt gold of earlier gold sovereigns—an important point for coins intended for everyday use in circulation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_gold
Not to be confused with dental gold, which I believe is typically 16K, though can contain more or less gold as needed as well as other precious and non-precious metals.
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Thanks. Learn something every day
Thanks for sharing!
Any chance of getting close ups of both sides of each coin?
That would be neat to have on file.
Jim
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Believe me, the reverses are every bit as convincing as the obverses. The edges, too. The key to detecting counterfeits isn't a glamour, wallpaper shot like the one up top.
And that was kind of the point of my post.
The key to counterfeit detection is always being skeptical when buying, knowing the very specific tells to look for, and making use of the services of our hosts or just buying the coins they've encapsulated. It's inexpensive insurance on the front end, and usually results in higher net when you sell.
There's a reason practically the entire run of $2.50 Indians are on the list ATS of the top 50 most commonly counterfeited US coins.
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"Believe me, the reverses are every bit as convincing as the obverses."
That is why it would be nice to get a closer look, we see soo many junk/cheap counterfeits.
If members see a better counterfeit made of real gold it kind of drives home your point of "making use of the services of our hosts or just buying the coins they've encapsulated."
My top step in counterfeit "authentication" is variety attribution and 1st knowing what a genuine example looks like.
I agree having a coin in a top TPG holder is an insurance policy for mistakes made with their guarantee of authenticity, but is no guarantee the coin is actually genuine...
Probably made from melted-down gold British sovereigns.
Thank you for sharing @Weiss they sure looks genuine! I was burnt by an oz of Liberty earlier in my collecting time ….. got so disgusted I trashed it at once. Should’ve kept it for YN as a study case.
Back in the 60's and 70's I used to see quite a few of the Lebanese made pieces. quite convincing. I suspect that's what your pieces are.
@Weiss ... Thanks for the picture and subsequent information. Regarding the picture, if doing a casual search on sites, the picture would not raise any concerns..... they look that good. Cheers, RickO
It's probably in a landfill along with a Stella that a forumite discarded some time ago, so it's in good company.
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