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Anyway. This is what fake gold coins look like.

WeissWeiss Posts: 9,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

And why we love Collector's Universe and PCGS.

We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
--Severian the Lame

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    clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If they were scattered aboot in that pile o morgans it would make a cool wallpaper, fake or not.

    MS66 taste on an MS63 budget.
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    WeissWeiss Posts: 9,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I welcome people to take my images for wallpapers, so long as they're not reproduced commercially or for gain without permission :)

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,302 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fake or not, they sure are pretty.

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    csdotcsdot Posts: 683 ✭✭✭✭

    Did they test as real gold, but as counterfeit US coins?

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    WeissWeiss Posts: 9,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, these are real gold. Ironically 91.7% pure "crown" gold rather than the 90% pure gold they are supposed to be.

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
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    Glen2022Glen2022 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭✭

    What is crown gold? Used for teeth?

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    WeissWeiss Posts: 9,936 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Glen2022 said:
    What is crown gold? Used for teeth?

    From Wikipedia:
    Crown gold is a 22 karat (kt) gold alloy used in the crown coin introduced in England in 1526 (by Henry VIII).[1] In this alloy, the proportion of gold is 22 parts out of 24 (91.667% gold)—and is appreciably less prone to wear than the softer 23 kt gold of earlier gold sovereigns—an important point for coins intended for everyday use in circulation.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_gold

    Not to be confused with dental gold, which I believe is typically 16K, though can contain more or less gold as needed as well as other precious and non-precious metals.

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
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    Glen2022Glen2022 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks. Learn something every day

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for sharing! :)

    Any chance of getting close ups of both sides of each coin?

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    jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,456 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    Thanks for sharing! :)

    Any chance of getting close ups of both sides of each coin?

    That would be neat to have on file.
    Jim


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    WeissWeiss Posts: 9,936 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 22, 2022 6:59PM

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    Thanks for sharing! :)

    Any chance of getting close ups of both sides of each coin?

    Believe me, the reverses are every bit as convincing as the obverses. The edges, too. The key to detecting counterfeits isn't a glamour, wallpaper shot like the one up top.

    And that was kind of the point of my post.

    The key to counterfeit detection is always being skeptical when buying, knowing the very specific tells to look for, and making use of the services of our hosts or just buying the coins they've encapsulated. It's inexpensive insurance on the front end, and usually results in higher net when you sell.

    There's a reason practically the entire run of $2.50 Indians are on the list ATS of the top 50 most commonly counterfeited US coins.

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Believe me, the reverses are every bit as convincing as the obverses."

    That is why it would be nice to get a closer look, we see soo many junk/cheap counterfeits.
    If members see a better counterfeit made of real gold it kind of drives home your point of "making use of the services of our hosts or just buying the coins they've encapsulated."

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    burfle23burfle23 Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Weiss said:

    @ifthevamzarockin said:
    Thanks for sharing! :)

    Any chance of getting close ups of both sides of each coin?

    Believe me, the reverses are every bit as convincing as the obverses. The edges, too. The key to detecting counterfeits isn't a glamour, wallpaper shot like the one up top.

    And that was kind of the point of my post.

    The key to counterfeit detection is always being skeptical when buying, knowing the very specific tells to look for, and making use of the services of our hosts or just buying the coins they've encapsulated. It's inexpensive insurance on the front end, and usually results in higher net when you sell.

    There's a reason practically the entire run of $2.50 Indians are on the list ATS of the top 50 most commonly counterfeited US coins.

    My top step in counterfeit "authentication" is variety attribution and 1st knowing what a genuine example looks like.

    I agree having a coin in a top TPG holder is an insurance policy for mistakes made with their guarantee of authenticity, but is no guarantee the coin is actually genuine...

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    thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Probably made from melted-down gold British sovereigns.

    thefinn
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    ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,588 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you for sharing @Weiss they sure looks genuine! I was burnt by an oz of Liberty earlier in my collecting time ….. got so disgusted I trashed it at once. Should’ve kept it for YN as a study case.

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    thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,764 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Back in the 60's and 70's I used to see quite a few of the Lebanese made pieces. quite convincing. I suspect that's what your pieces are.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Weiss ... Thanks for the picture and subsequent information. Regarding the picture, if doing a casual search on sites, the picture would not raise any concerns..... they look that good. Cheers, RickO

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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 11,972 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 23, 2022 5:25AM

    @Paradisefound said:
    Thank you for sharing @Weiss they sure looks genuine! I was burnt by an oz of Liberty earlier in my collecting time ….. got so disgusted I trashed it at once. Should’ve kept it for YN as a study case.

    It's probably in a landfill along with a Stella that a forumite discarded some time ago, so it's in good company.

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