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1976 Quarter - Is it PMD if it happened at the mint?

CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭✭✭

I assume these were bagged at the mint so is this some sort or Pre-pmd? The grooves seem to be about the same spacing as the reeded edge.
So what gives? I know the cellophane sealer couldn’t have caused that kind of damage.





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  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,479 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 20, 2022 4:03PM Answer ✓

    Yes, I believe others will confirm it was caused by the sealing machine.

    You could call it "post strike damage" but it's the same as PMD.

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  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry but it's packaging damage and that's PMD. It actually reduces the value of the set

    Member of the ANA since 1982
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,815 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As above – the coin was laying in the wrong position When the sealing machine tried to heat seal them

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors
    for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022
  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 20, 2022 4:24PM

    While I see extremely frequent use of “PMD” (for Post-Mint Damage), I think that the better option is “PSD” (for Post-Strike Damage). The latter includes damage that occurs after coins are struck, but which are still at the mint. The former does not.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Join the crowd, it happens. Congratulations, you're now an official member of the club!

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow! I wouldn’t have thought that the heat and pressure created by the sealer could’ve done this kind of damage. But now I know. Thanks guys!

    I guess when you think about the thousands upon thousands that were pressed that you would need something as strong as a die itself.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,276 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Something new learned

  • MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How about" post minting damage"? The minting process ends with the strike, therefore anything after that is PMD even if it occurs while it's still at the mint.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the term Post Strike Damage....Indicates the period between the mint strike and release to the field. PSD works for me. Cheers, RickO

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,043 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Besides real mint errors, I like mint packaging errors as well.

    Can't say the same for PSD or PMD!

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

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