Another battered buffalo for those interested to grade and price

BUFFNIXX

How would you value this coin? Its a tuff one for sure.

Rampage

Wow. What a shame on this one (and the one in the other thread). I think it is going to be a hard sell unless you price it really cheap. I think if it were my coin, I would be happy if I netted $2,000 for it. Rare coin for sure, but probably not that desirable of a coin. Like I said, I think it will be a hard sell in that condition.

MarkKelley

My only experience with this coin is selling an acid dated one several years ago for $650. As you well know, that's a STEEP discount from even an AG.

Estil

How can anyone be battering buffalos? Aren't they an endangered species?

LanceNewmanOCC

for my part is to get into a pcgs details holder with a TV. just increases the odds of selling it and it needs some assistance even being the monster of a coin it is.

i'd for sure do some serious research and practice on a lot of buffs/vnicks for coins with similar surfaces to see if it could at least be peeled back to a decent color and/or to remove that green crud.

so as-is my value estimation would be a lot lower than if it could be properly conserved and with that much money on the line, i wouldn't hesitate to spend some on it to get it to an option position which hopefully would also guarantee some stabilization for the surfaces.

ricko

Not a coin I would add to my collection. Yes, a special coin indeed, but too much corrosion and the tooling makes it a reject in my view. Cheers, RickO

291fifth

A coin to be avoided unless it was very, very cheap.

Vetter

Corrosion aside, once I see tooled I would pass. Without the tooling I wonder how it would look. PCGS price guide in VF30 is $15,500. No where near that price in the condition it’s in.

BuffaloIronTail

That coin breaks my numismatic heart.

Pete

jesbroken

As much as I would wish to own a 16/16 Buff, with the tooling I would pass at nearly any market price.
Jim

rip_f

I understand the term "tooling" and can recognize a flagrant example of it on a Morgan sometimes, but would somebody please explain how and where it was employed on a coin like this? It's certainly not evident - does it require great magnification to be discovered in most cases?

Treashunt

@rip_f said:
I understand the term "tooling" and can recognize a flagrant example of it on a Morgan sometimes, but would somebody please explain how and where it was employed on a coin like this? It's certainly not evident - does it require great magnification to be discovered in most cases?

Agreed, I can't see it [the tooling].

OnWithTheHunt

EF-40, corroded

braddick

@Treashunt said:

@rip_f said:
I understand the term "tooling" and can recognize a flagrant example of it on a Morgan sometimes, but would somebody please explain how and where it was employed on a coin like this? It's certainly not evident - does it require great magnification to be discovered in most cases?

Agreed, I can't see it [the tooling].

The tooling was used under the buffalo and under the buffalo's head.
Tooling doesn't offend me. If done right it can enhance an already damaged/corroded coin a bit.
I like this one as the details are readily seen.
What value/cost would you place on this one?

COINS MAKE CENTS

I looked at this coin while trying to figure out a value for the 16/16 I recently found. It's ashame as the date is nice and strong

Vetter

As a comparison. Here is my PCGS environmental damage VF details. I can live with the way mine looks and the discounted price was very reasonable. I wanted to be able to see a strong date and have a full horn. No way I could afford a problem free one in that condition.

amwldcoin

@Vetter said:
As a comparison. Here is my PCGS environmental damage VF details. I can live with the way mine looks and the discounted price was very reasonable. I wanted to be able to see a strong date and have a full horn. No way I could afford a problem free one in that condition.

Funny PCGS netted it a grade. To my eyes that's XF details all day long!

rokky

@COINS MAKE CENTS said:
I looked at this coin while trying to figure out a value for the 16/16 I recently found. It's ashame as the date is nice and strong

Do you have any pics of yours? I’d love to find one too, but that goes without saying. Who wouldn’t want an example? Lol

rokky

@Vetter said:
As a comparison. Here is my PCGS environmental damage VF details. I can live with the way mine looks and the discounted price was very reasonable. I wanted to be able to see a strong date and have a full horn. No way I could afford a problem free one in that condition.

I would definitely splurge for one like this. The darkness in the fields and around the devices really sets this coin off. Yummy lol

rokky

I would probably consider the OP’s coin, but it would have to be the right price. Whatever that may be??

COINS MAKE CENTS

@rokky said:

@COINS MAKE CENTS said:
I looked at this coin while trying to figure out a value for the 16/16 I recently found. It's ashame as the date is nice and strong

Do you have any pics of yours? I’d love to find one too, but that goes without saying. Who wouldn’t want an example? Lol

rokky

Thanks for the pics Coins Make Cents. Nice doubling still apparent on the 6, along with the feathers and braid ties. Doubling on the 9 is very faint, but it’s there. I have no idea what the value would be though.

Crypto

995$ or best offer

LanceNewmanOCC

@braddick said:

@Treashunt said:

@rip_f said:
I understand the term "tooling" and can recognize a flagrant example of it on a Morgan sometimes, but would somebody please explain how and where it was employed on a coin like this? It's certainly not evident - does it require great magnification to be discovered in most cases?

Agreed, I can't see it [the tooling].

The tooling was used under the buffalo and under the buffalo's head.
Tooling doesn't offend me. If done right it can enhance an already damaged/corroded coin a bit.
I like this one as the details are readily seen.
What value/cost would you place on this one?

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and what pray tell, did they enhance under the buffalo?