Thoughts on Mac Jones second season

doubledragon · June 12, 2022 3:01AM

What do you think, will MACachusetts be able to lead the Patriots back to the playoffs? I'm looking forward to watching the rivalry between the Bills and the Patriots!

doubledragon · June 12, 2022 3:17AM

Josh Allen is going to be fun to watch as well, football season can't get here fast enough.

craig44 · June 12, 2022 4:21AM

from everything i have heard, Mac is in the best physical shape of his life and is really taking control of the team leadership.

I think the patriots are playoff bound

2dueces · June 12, 2022 4:41AM

@craig44 said:
from everything i have heard, Mac is in the best physical shape of his life and is really taking control of the team leadership.

I think the patriots are playoff bound

Only if 8 wins gets them in.

thisistheshow · June 12, 2022 6:10AM

Despite my hope that the Patriots have a double digit win season, I am in all honesty somewhat unsure about it happening. I cannot definitely foresee a huge leap in wins for us until the 2023 season. I believe that next off season, with our plethora of cap space, will be a time for us to create the necessary roster.

But as for the question in the OP, I have already predicted that the MacAttack will be in full throttle.

perkdog · June 12, 2022 8:42AM

I have zero expectations of the Patriots making the playoffs, I think Hoodie with his GM prowess will make sure that they finish well behind Buffalo and Miami

Steven59 · June 12, 2022 9:31AM

They have a pretty tough schedule, opening up with @Miami right out of the gates. Then @Steelers, Raisins, @Green Bay, before they get a break with the Lions at home.

thisistheshow · June 12, 2022 9:31AM

I'm on mobile right now, so I can't check who liked @2dueces 8 wins comment. But I am pretty sure it was @perkdog . Do you have no shame? 😂 Don't worry, I'll check later...

doubledragon · June 12, 2022 9:39AM

I'm not sure if anyone is aware of this but Mac Jones nickname in college was "The Joker", I always liked that nickname.

doubledragon · June 12, 2022 9:42AM

And Josh Allen can be Batman, Batman vs The Joker, this rivalry just keeps getting better!

Hydrant · June 12, 2022 10:21AM

@Steven59 said:
They have a pretty tough schedule, opening up with @Miami right out of the gates. Then @Steelers, Raisins, @Green Bay, before they get a break with the Lions at home.

Raisins?......I think your spellcheck has gone hay wire.....Or I missed something!

doubledragon · June 12, 2022 10:36AM

Please, I need this rivalry, my football life has taken a turn for the worse in the last few years. One season we were so bad, we lost on a bye week!

Hydrant · June 12, 2022 10:54AM

But, I just had a thought!........ With all the controversy about team names, it might be a good idea to just require all teams to be named after fruits and vegetables. or food items.....Who could possibly, for instance, get upset about the L.A. Tacos or the Green Bay Cheddars? Or the the Philadelphia Cheesesteaks, the Chicago Pizzas, Seattle Coffee, The New England Chowders, the New York Bagels, the Minnesota Meatballs, The Pittsburgh Pastramis, the New Orleans Gumbos, The St. Louis Flying Biscuits, the Tennessee Catfish, the San Francisco Salads, The Denver Oysters (Rocky Mountain type.....I don't recommend them), The Buffalo Wings, the Dallas Chilli, no, forget that one....The Dallas Doughnuts.... I like that one best!.....you get the picture...... But, I would leave the Washington Commanders alone......that name is already stupid enough as it is....can't be topped.

perkdog · June 12, 2022 11:01AM

@thisistheshow said:
I'm on mobile right now, so I can't check who liked @2dueces 8 wins comment. But I am pretty sure it was @perkdog . Do you have no shame? 😂 Don't worry, I'll check later...

It was me, you and everyone else here knows how much I love the Patriots but I’m realistic and truly believe they will take a step back from last year.

The coaching staff is a disaster and Big Bill hasn’t done a whole lot in improving the team.

Steven59 · June 12, 2022 11:34AM

@Hydrant said:

@Steven59 said:
They have a pretty tough schedule, opening up with @Miami right out of the gates. Then @Steelers, Raisins, @Green Bay, before they get a break with the Lions at home.

Raisins?......I think your spellcheck has gone hay wire.....Or I missed something!

Ravens..........They are called the "Raisins" by the Cleveland media - Just like the Browns are called the "Clowns" when they are losing bad

Steven59 · June 12, 2022 11:37AM

@Hydrant said:
But, I just had a thought!........ With all the controversy about team names, it might be a good idea to just require all teams to be named after fruits and vegetables. or food items.....Who could possibly, for instance, get upset about the L.A. Tacos or the Green Bay Cheddars? Or the the Philadelphia Cheesesteaks, the Chicago Pizzas, Seattle Coffee, The New England Chowders, the New York Bagels, the Minnesota Meatballs, The Pittsburgh Pastramis, the New Orleans Gumbos, The St. Louis Flying Biscuits, the Tennessee Catfish, the San Francisco Salads, The Denver Oysters (Rocky Mountain type.....I don't recommend them), The Buffalo Wings, the Dallas Chilli, no, forget that one....The Dallas Doughnuts.... I like that one best!.....you get the picture...... But, I would leave the Washington Commanders alone......that name is already stupid enough as it is....can't be topped.

Cleveland Cantaloupes has a nice ring to it! Especially when they CAN'T seem to do anything right.

Hydrant · June 12, 2022 12:08PM

@Steven59 said:

@Hydrant said:

@Steven59 said:
They have a pretty tough schedule, opening up with @Miami right out of the gates. Then @Steelers, Raisins, @Green Bay, before they get a break with the Lions at home.

Raisins?......I think your spellcheck has gone hay wire.....Or I missed something!

Ravens..........They are called the "Raisins" by the Cleveland media - Just like the Browns are called the "Clowns" when they are losing bad

Thanks, Stevearoono! I figured it was something like that. I like it!.....Learn something every day. Thanks for the explanation.

2dueces · June 13, 2022 3:10AM

Mac Jones will be just fine. I think he’s a disciplined QB that fits right in to the scheme for New England. But this is the NFL. Film and adjustments. We will soon see what his ceiling is the next 2 years. For fans of both teams I hope it turns into an exciting rivalry

erikthredd · June 13, 2022 11:02AM

@ Miami W This game can go either way especially where Brian Flores inside knowledge of NE is now @ Pitt
@ Pittsburgh L same as above but I'll give Pitt the edge because of Flores
vs Baltimore W Ravens are 1-5 vs NE in last 6 with 0-3 @ NE
@ Green Bay L
vs Detroit W
@ Cleveland W This can go either way depending if Watson is the Browns QB that day
vs Chicago W NE has had Chicago's number going back 20yrs (5-0)
@ New York W
vs Indianapolis W Indy has lost 6 straight @ NE
BYE WEEK
vs New York W
@ Minnesota W This could be another either way game but NE has won 5 straight vs Minnesota
vs Buffalo W This could go either way but I think NE wins at home vs Buffalo but lose on the road
@ Arizona W NE is 7-1 vs Arizona in last 8 while Cards were a bad home team in 2021(3-5) -could go either way
@ Las Vegas W This could go either way but NE has won 6 straight vs Raiders
vs Cincinnati L This could go either way but I went with Cincy here
Miami W
@ Buffalo L This game could mean something or nothing at all where one of both teams could be resting guys.

I have NE finishing at 14-3 above but I honestly think it will be closer to 11-6/12-5 than 14-3. Sure, they have a pretty tough start but there's also many winnable games on this schedule against,quite frankly,some not very good teams.

I think Mac stats take a step up in the 4Kyds/26-29tds/10-2int range with similar accuracy as last season 65+%. There were many reports that he and most of the passing offense spent time together during this offseason working out together and that included Devante Parker. I think a larger question than,will Mac have a sophomore slump?, is how much freedom do the co-OC's in Matt Patricia & Joe Judge give Mac this season in taking more shots downfield compared to 2021?

BB has moved on from some of their older more experienced players on defense in recent years but going younger & faster will probably even that out a bit. Like most BB defenses over the years I expect them to get better as the season goes on providing there aren't any major injuries.

thisistheshow · June 13, 2022 11:51AM

I think 10-7 or 11-6 is the most likely outcome for our Pats but either way, I like your thinking @erikthredd

erikthredd · June 13, 2022 12:07PM

@thisistheshow said:
I think 10-7 or 11-6 is the most likely outcome for our Pats but either way, I like your thinking @erikthredd

I marked quite a few of those games as "going either way" but for most of them I see NE having the edge because of Belichick. Most of say what we do about BB the GM,myself included, but he's a phenomenal head coach. They finished 10-7 a season ago and I think this schedule will be easier than that one.

1951WheatiesPremium · June 13, 2022 12:20PM

@erikthredd
@thisistheshow
@perkdog

As my favorite resident NE sports fans, I offer this in fun only:

This thread kinda reads like an old Bill Swerski’s Superfans sketch from SNL…

“What if the Patriots play against a hurricane, but the hurricane is called Hurricane Bellichek?”

Now, to really answer?

I see Mac Jones taking the next step and the Pats back in the playoffs.

2dueces · June 13, 2022 3:06PM

@erikthredd said:
1. @ Miami W This game can go either way especially where Brian Flores inside knowledge of NE is now @ Pitt
2. @ Pittsburgh L same as above but I'll give Pitt the edge because of Flores
3. vs Baltimore W Ravens are 1-5 vs NE in last 6 with 0-3 @ NE
4. @ Green Bay L
5. vs Detroit W
6. @ Cleveland W This can go either way depending if Watson is the Browns QB that day
7. vs Chicago W NE has had Chicago's number going back 20yrs (5-0)
8. @ New York W
9. vs Indianapolis W Indy has lost 6 straight @ NE
10. BYE WEEK
11. vs New York W
12. @ Minnesota W This could be another either way game but NE has won 5 straight vs Minnesota
13. vs Buffalo W This could go either way but I think NE wins at home vs Buffalo but lose on the road
14. @ Arizona W NE is 7-1 vs Arizona in last 8 while Cards were a bad home team in 2021(3-5) -could go either way
15. @ Las Vegas W This could go either way but NE has won 6 straight vs Raiders
16. vs Cincinnati L This could go either way but I went with Cincy here
17. Miami W
18. @ Buffalo L This game could mean something or nothing at all where one of both teams could be resting guys.

I have NE finishing at 14-3 above but I honestly think it will be closer to 11-6/12-5 than 14-3. Sure, they have a pretty tough start but there's also many winnable games on this schedule against,quite frankly,some not very good teams.

I think Mac stats take a step up in the 4Kyds/26-29tds/10-2int range with similar accuracy as last season 65+%. There were many reports that he and most of the passing offense spent time together during this offseason working out together and that included Devante Parker. I think a larger question than,will Mac have a sophomore slump?, is how much freedom do the co-OC's in Matt Patricia & Joe Judge give Mac this season in taking more shots downfield compared to 2021?

BB has moved on from some of their older more experienced players on defense in recent years but going younger & faster will probably even that out a bit. Like most BB defenses over the years I expect them to get better as the season goes on providing there aren't any major injuries.

Lol. That is the funniest post on this thread so far. You forgot to put 😂😂😂😂 at the end of it.

Oh wait? You were serious? The 47 points hung on them by the Bills in the playoffs wasn’t enough for you to see how far behind them they are? Or the 30+ at home? And you have them beating the Bills? Pray for a hurricane. Please stay away from casinos.

2dueces · June 13, 2022 3:09PM

Take it from someone with no feelings invested. The Patriots win 8 games and battle the Jets for last place in the East.

Steven59 · June 13, 2022 3:10PM

So if the "Either ways" actually end up as going the "Other way" then your looking at 7-10.

perkdog · June 13, 2022 3:25PM

@1951WheatiesPremium said:
@erikthredd
@thisistheshow
@perkdog

As my favorite resident NE sports fans, I offer this in fun only:

This thread kinda reads like an old Bill Swerski’s Superfans sketch from SNL…

“What if the Patriots play against a hurricane, but the hurricane is called Hurricane Bellichek?”

Now, to really answer?

I see Mac Jones taking the next step and the Pats back in the playoffs.

Tim your a good guy, actually your probably the one NY fan that is a straight shooter when bantering with us Pats fans.

You got my respect good sir 🍻

erikthredd · June 13, 2022 3:52PM

@2dueces said:

@erikthredd said:
1. @ Miami W This game can go either way especially where Brian Flores inside knowledge of NE is now @ Pitt
2. @ Pittsburgh L same as above but I'll give Pitt the edge because of Flores
3. vs Baltimore W Ravens are 1-5 vs NE in last 6 with 0-3 @ NE
4. @ Green Bay L
5. vs Detroit W
6. @ Cleveland W This can go either way depending if Watson is the Browns QB that day
7. vs Chicago W NE has had Chicago's number going back 20yrs (5-0)
8. @ New York W
9. vs Indianapolis W Indy has lost 6 straight @ NE
10. BYE WEEK
11. vs New York W
12. @ Minnesota W This could be another either way game but NE has won 5 straight vs Minnesota
13. vs Buffalo W This could go either way but I think NE wins at home vs Buffalo but lose on the road
14. @ Arizona W NE is 7-1 vs Arizona in last 8 while Cards were a bad home team in 2021(3-5) -could go either way
15. @ Las Vegas W This could go either way but NE has won 6 straight vs Raiders
16. vs Cincinnati L This could go either way but I went with Cincy here
17. Miami W
18. @ Buffalo L This game could mean something or nothing at all where one of both teams could be resting guys.

I have NE finishing at 14-3 above but I honestly think it will be closer to 11-6/12-5 than 14-3. Sure, they have a pretty tough start but there's also many winnable games on this schedule against,quite frankly,some not very good teams.

I think Mac stats take a step up in the 4Kyds/26-29tds/10-2int range with similar accuracy as last season 65+%. There were many reports that he and most of the passing offense spent time together during this offseason working out together and that included Devante Parker. I think a larger question than,will Mac have a sophomore slump?, is how much freedom do the co-OC's in Matt Patricia & Joe Judge give Mac this season in taking more shots downfield compared to 2021?

BB has moved on from some of their older more experienced players on defense in recent years but going younger & faster will probably even that out a bit. Like most BB defenses over the years I expect them to get better as the season goes on providing there aren't any major injuries.

Lol. That is the funniest post on this thread so far. You forgot to put 😂😂😂😂 at the end of it.

Oh wait? You were serious? The 47 points hung on them by the Bills in the playoffs wasn’t enough for you to see how far behind them they are? Or the 30+ at home? And you have them beating the Bills? Pray for a hurricane. Please stay away from casinos.

Sorry dude, I don't take anything you say that is New England Patriots related seriously because of your inability to think unbiasedly when it comes to this team.
Sure, Buffalo did beat them twice last season but they also lost once in a game where the Patriots QB threw the ball just THREE times.
Yes,your vaunted Bills lost that game in a season where had they had just ONE more regular season win they would have tied with Tennessee & Kansas City for best AFC record at 12-5.
The Titans would have still won the 1st seed for beating Buffalo earlier but KC would have dropped to the 3rd seed then Buffalo would have played that 2nd round playoff game at home instead of at KC....
....and MAYBE we wouldn't have all had to watch this absolute abortion by your great defense that returned all 11 starters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I0xJ3xRck8

LOLOLOTROLOLOLOLOTROLOLOLOLOTRLOLOLOLOLTROLOLOLOLO
😂😂😂😂

erikthredd · June 13, 2022 3:58PM

@Steven59 said:
So if the "Either ways" actually end up as going the "Other way" then your looking at 7-10.

Maybe but like I said in my comment to Eric after that having Belichick will probably be the deciding factor on that day. He usually puts the team in the best position to win and looking at some of those other teams,many of them have a hard tiome getting their heads out of their ass on gameday.

If I had to lock-in a preseason prediction for NE right now I'd say they go 12-5 with losses @Pittsburgh,@ GB,Indy,Cincy & @ Buffalo.

2dueces · June 13, 2022 4:35PM

@erikthredd said:

@2dueces said:

@erikthredd said:
1. @ Miami W This game can go either way especially where Brian Flores inside knowledge of NE is now @ Pitt
2. @ Pittsburgh L same as above but I'll give Pitt the edge because of Flores
3. vs Baltimore W Ravens are 1-5 vs NE in last 6 with 0-3 @ NE
4. @ Green Bay L
5. vs Detroit W
6. @ Cleveland W This can go either way depending if Watson is the Browns QB that day
7. vs Chicago W NE has had Chicago's number going back 20yrs (5-0)
8. @ New York W
9. vs Indianapolis W Indy has lost 6 straight @ NE
10. BYE WEEK
11. vs New York W
12. @ Minnesota W This could be another either way game but NE has won 5 straight vs Minnesota
13. vs Buffalo W This could go either way but I think NE wins at home vs Buffalo but lose on the road
14. @ Arizona W NE is 7-1 vs Arizona in last 8 while Cards were a bad home team in 2021(3-5) -could go either way
15. @ Las Vegas W This could go either way but NE has won 6 straight vs Raiders
16. vs Cincinnati L This could go either way but I went with Cincy here
17. Miami W
18. @ Buffalo L This game could mean something or nothing at all where one of both teams could be resting guys.

I have NE finishing at 14-3 above but I honestly think it will be closer to 11-6/12-5 than 14-3. Sure, they have a pretty tough start but there's also many winnable games on this schedule against,quite frankly,some not very good teams.

I think Mac stats take a step up in the 4Kyds/26-29tds/10-2int range with similar accuracy as last season 65+%. There were many reports that he and most of the passing offense spent time together during this offseason working out together and that included Devante Parker. I think a larger question than,will Mac have a sophomore slump?, is how much freedom do the co-OC's in Matt Patricia & Joe Judge give Mac this season in taking more shots downfield compared to 2021?

BB has moved on from some of their older more experienced players on defense in recent years but going younger & faster will probably even that out a bit. Like most BB defenses over the years I expect them to get better as the season goes on providing there aren't any major injuries.

Lol. That is the funniest post on this thread so far. You forgot to put 😂😂😂😂 at the end of it.

Oh wait? You were serious? The 47 points hung on them by the Bills in the playoffs wasn’t enough for you to see how far behind them they are? Or the 30+ at home? And you have them beating the Bills? Pray for a hurricane. Please stay away from casinos.

Sorry dude, I don't take anything you say that is New England Patriots related seriously because of your inability to think unbiasedly when it comes to this team.
Sure, Buffalo did beat them twice last season but they also lost once in a game where the Patriots QB threw the ball just THREE times.
Yes,your vaunted Bills lost that game in a season where had they had just ONE more regular season win they would have tied with Tennessee & Kansas City for best AFC record at 12-5.
The Titans would have still won the 1st seed for beating Buffalo earlier but KC would have dropped to the 3rd seed then Buffalo would have played that 2nd round playoff game at home instead of at KC....
....and MAYBE we wouldn't have all had to watch this absolute abortion by your great defense that returned all 11 starters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I0xJ3xRck8

LOLOLOTROLOLOLOLOTROLOLOLOLOTRLOLOLOLOLTROLOLOLOLO
😂😂😂😂

7 drives, 7 touchdowns. All your references to other games means zip, zero. Unless you’re talking about 1-4 in crunch time for the Patriots.

Well let’s put your theory to the test.
I’ll split the difference with you.
If the Patriots win 11 games or more I’ll pay you $125.00
If they fail to reach 11 you pay me $100.
All your LOL isn’t worth the ink you write it with if you aren’t will to put your money where your mouth is.

erikthredd · June 13, 2022 4:46PM

@2dueces said:

@erikthredd said:

@2dueces said:

@erikthredd said:
1. @ Miami W This game can go either way especially where Brian Flores inside knowledge of NE is now @ Pitt
2. @ Pittsburgh L same as above but I'll give Pitt the edge because of Flores
3. vs Baltimore W Ravens are 1-5 vs NE in last 6 with 0-3 @ NE
4. @ Green Bay L
5. vs Detroit W
6. @ Cleveland W This can go either way depending if Watson is the Browns QB that day
7. vs Chicago W NE has had Chicago's number going back 20yrs (5-0)
8. @ New York W
9. vs Indianapolis W Indy has lost 6 straight @ NE
10. BYE WEEK
11. vs New York W
12. @ Minnesota W This could be another either way game but NE has won 5 straight vs Minnesota
13. vs Buffalo W This could go either way but I think NE wins at home vs Buffalo but lose on the road
14. @ Arizona W NE is 7-1 vs Arizona in last 8 while Cards were a bad home team in 2021(3-5) -could go either way
15. @ Las Vegas W This could go either way but NE has won 6 straight vs Raiders
16. vs Cincinnati L This could go either way but I went with Cincy here
17. Miami W
18. @ Buffalo L This game could mean something or nothing at all where one of both teams could be resting guys.

I have NE finishing at 14-3 above but I honestly think it will be closer to 11-6/12-5 than 14-3. Sure, they have a pretty tough start but there's also many winnable games on this schedule against,quite frankly,some not very good teams.

I think Mac stats take a step up in the 4Kyds/26-29tds/10-2int range with similar accuracy as last season 65+%. There were many reports that he and most of the passing offense spent time together during this offseason working out together and that included Devante Parker. I think a larger question than,will Mac have a sophomore slump?, is how much freedom do the co-OC's in Matt Patricia & Joe Judge give Mac this season in taking more shots downfield compared to 2021?

BB has moved on from some of their older more experienced players on defense in recent years but going younger & faster will probably even that out a bit. Like most BB defenses over the years I expect them to get better as the season goes on providing there aren't any major injuries.

Lol. That is the funniest post on this thread so far. You forgot to put 😂😂😂😂 at the end of it.

Oh wait? You were serious? The 47 points hung on them by the Bills in the playoffs wasn’t enough for you to see how far behind them they are? Or the 30+ at home? And you have them beating the Bills? Pray for a hurricane. Please stay away from casinos.

Sorry dude, I don't take anything you say that is New England Patriots related seriously because of your inability to think unbiasedly when it comes to this team.
Sure, Buffalo did beat them twice last season but they also lost once in a game where the Patriots QB threw the ball just THREE times.
Yes,your vaunted Bills lost that game in a season where had they had just ONE more regular season win they would have tied with Tennessee & Kansas City for best AFC record at 12-5.
The Titans would have still won the 1st seed for beating Buffalo earlier but KC would have dropped to the 3rd seed then Buffalo would have played that 2nd round playoff game at home instead of at KC....
....and MAYBE we wouldn't have all had to watch this absolute abortion by your great defense that returned all 11 starters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I0xJ3xRck8

LOLOLOTROLOLOLOLOTROLOLOLOLOTRLOLOLOLOLTROLOLOLOLO
😂😂😂😂

7 drives, 7 touchdowns. All your references to other games means zip, zero. Unless you’re talking about 1-4 in crunch time for the Patriots.

We’ll let’s put your theory to the test.
I’ll split the difference with you.
If the Patriots win 11 games or more I’ll pay you $125.00
If they fail to reach 11 you pay me $100.
All your LOL isn’t worth the ink you write if with if you aren’t will to put your money where your mouth is.

Sorry,I value my money to much to gamble it away on a game that I have no part in. I'd rather take my $100,invest it in a early Michael Jordan card,spend the $50-100 to get it graded then sell it for 5-10x what I paid for. That's the only gambling that you'll ever see me doing.

On a sidenote,that new Bills logo is looking great!

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

erikthredd · June 13, 2022 4:50PM

This is what it must have felt like for Bills fans watching that final :13 seconds versus KC...

Ironically,that gif took about the same amount of time as Buffalo blowing away their entire season.

Steven59 · June 13, 2022 5:42PM

@erikthredd said:

@Steven59 said:
So if the "Either ways" actually end up as going the "Other way" then your looking at 7-10.

Maybe but like I said in my comment to Eric after that having Belichick will probably be the deciding factor on that day.

Looking back last season the only time Belichick REALLY came into play was the "Rain game" vs Buffalo when he called mostly running plays. Other than that I didn't see much of an advantage - especially during that playoff game.

erikthredd · June 13, 2022 5:48PM

@Steven59 said:

@erikthredd said:

@Steven59 said:
So if the "Either ways" actually end up as going the "Other way" then your looking at 7-10.

Maybe but like I said in my comment to Eric after that having Belichick will probably be the deciding factor on that day.

Looking back last season the only time Belichick REALLY came into play was the "Rain game" vs Buffalo when he called mostly running plays. Other than that I didn't see much of an advantage - especially during that playoff game.

The guy is arguably considered the greatest nfl head coach of all time and the only time he was a factor on gameday was that ONE game? Sorry,I'm not buying that. He took his team to the playoffs with a rookie QB starting for them. Sure Buffalo won,they should have with a better QB and better overall roster.

Steven59 · June 13, 2022 6:05PM

@erikthredd said:

@Steven59 said:

@erikthredd said:

@Steven59 said:
So if the "Either ways" actually end up as going the "Other way" then your looking at 7-10.

Maybe but like I said in my comment to Eric after that having Belichick will probably be the deciding factor on that day.

Looking back last season the only time Belichick REALLY came into play was the "Rain game" vs Buffalo when he called mostly running plays. Other than that I didn't see much of an advantage - especially during that playoff game.

The guy is arguably considered the greatest nfl head coach of all time and the only time he was a factor on gameday was that ONE game? Sorry,I'm not buying that. He took his team to the playoffs with a rookie QB starting for them. Sure Buffalo won,they should have with a better QB and better overall roster.

Sorry to piss you off but as a non Patriot fan I was just stating what I noticed as a neutral bystander last season. Sure it was great a rookie took them to the playoffs and of course it was belichick without Brady. A great head coach does make a difference - sometimes. But look at the Browns in 2020, Stefanski took them to the playoffs and almost made it to the AFC championship game - while NE lost in the wildcard playoff game - what does that have to do with a head coach?

erikthredd · June 13, 2022 6:11PM

@Steven59 said:

@erikthredd said:

@Steven59 said:

@erikthredd said:

@Steven59 said:
So if the "Either ways" actually end up as going the "Other way" then your looking at 7-10.

Maybe but like I said in my comment to Eric after that having Belichick will probably be the deciding factor on that day.

Looking back last season the only time Belichick REALLY came into play was the "Rain game" vs Buffalo when he called mostly running plays. Other than that I didn't see much of an advantage - especially during that playoff game.

The guy is arguably considered the greatest nfl head coach of all time and the only time he was a factor on gameday was that ONE game? Sorry,I'm not buying that. He took his team to the playoffs with a rookie QB starting for them. Sure Buffalo won,they should have with a better QB and better overall roster.

Sorry to piss you off but as a non Patriot fan I was just stating what I noticed as a neutral bystander last season. Sure it was great a rookie took them to the playoffs and of course it was belichick without Brady. A great head coach does make a difference - sometimes. But look at the Browns in 2020, Stefanski took them to the playoffs and almost made it to the AFC championship game - while NE lost in the wildcard playoff game - what does that have to do with a head coach?

Lol why would your comment piss me off? I just think he has more of an affect on game day than you do. We’ve been watching his game plans take opposing teams off their game for years and last season was no different.

Steven59 · June 13, 2022 6:24PM

@erikthredd said:

Lol why would your comment piss me off? I just think he has more of an affect on game day than you do. We’ve been watching his game plans take opposing teams off their game for years and last season was no different.

Just taking precaution to the wind......Sometimes I say the wrong thing while not meaning it - covering my ass just in case.

erikthredd · June 13, 2022 6:28PM

@Steven59 said:

@erikthredd said:

Lol why would your comment piss me off? I just think he has more of an affect on game day than you do. We’ve been watching his game plans take opposing teams off their game for years and last season was no different.

Just taking precaution to the wind......Sometimes I say the wrong thing while not meaning it - covering my ass just in case.

You’ve been rooting for Celtics wins all playoffs, you’re good in my book. 👍

Steven59 · June 13, 2022 6:35PM

@erikthredd said:

@Steven59 said:

@erikthredd said:

Lol why would your comment piss me off? I just think he has more of an affect on game day than you do. We’ve been watching his game plans take opposing teams off their game for years and last season was no different.

Just taking precaution to the wind......Sometimes I say the wrong thing while not meaning it - covering my ass just in case.

You’ve been rooting for Celtics wins all playoffs, you’re good in my book. 👍

OH DAMN, I just screwed up then and bet on the Warriors tonight.............Its gonna come down to game 7. Boston has such huge players compared to GS - I think GS will will be totally worn down by then

erikthredd · June 13, 2022 8:40PM

@Steven59 said:

@erikthredd said:

@Steven59 said:

@erikthredd said:

Lol why would your comment piss me off? I just think he has more of an affect on game day than you do. We’ve been watching his game plans take opposing teams off their game for years and last season was no different.

Just taking precaution to the wind......Sometimes I say the wrong thing while not meaning it - covering my ass just in case.

You’ve been rooting for Celtics wins all playoffs, you’re good in my book. 👍

OH DAMN, I just screwed up then and bet on the Warriors tonight.............Its gonna come down to game 7. Boston has such huge players compared to GS - I think GS will will be totally worn down by then

Ahh, so its all your fault then lol. GS played great on a night where Curry looked mortal. Hats off on their win.

thisistheshow · June 13, 2022 11:48PM

I hadn't been on the forum in maybe five or so hours and I was pleasantly surprised to see so many new comments on the MacAttack thread.

Then I just read through them all and I was doubly surprised to see so much feisty trash talk going on.

It's almost 2am my time, and I thought about not bringing my phone to the bathroom, but I'm certainly glad I did.

2dueces · June 14, 2022 3:30AM

@erikthredd said:

@Steven59 said:

@erikthredd said:

@Steven59 said:
So if the "Either ways" actually end up as going the "Other way" then your looking at 7-10.

Maybe but like I said in my comment to Eric after that having Belichick will probably be the deciding factor on that day.

Looking back last season the only time Belichick REALLY came into play was the "Rain game" vs Buffalo when he called mostly running plays. Other than that I didn't see much of an advantage - especially during that playoff game.

The guy is arguably considered the greatest nfl head coach of all time and the only time he was a factor on gameday was that ONE game? Sorry,I'm not buying that. He took his team to the playoffs with a rookie QB starting for them. Sure Buffalo won,they should have with a better QB and better overall roster.

He’s a buffoon that lucked out in the 6th round. Without Brady all those years he would have been coaching soccer years ago. His great defensive mind was evident 47 points later. But hey he did orchestra a blocked extra point.

2dueces · June 14, 2022 3:32AM

Sorry,I value my money to much to gamble it away on a game that I have no part in. I'd rather take my $100,invest it in a early Michael Jordan card,spend the $50-100 to get it graded then sell it for 5-10x what I paid for. That's the only gambling that you'll ever see me doing.

Blah, blah, blah. 14 wins. 😂😂👍

thisistheshow · June 14, 2022 4:03AM

@2dueces said:

@erikthredd said:

@Steven59 said:

@erikthredd said:

@Steven59 said:
So if the "Either ways" actually end up as going the "Other way" then your looking at 7-10.

Maybe but like I said in my comment to Eric after that having Belichick will probably be the deciding factor on that day.

Looking back last season the only time Belichick REALLY came into play was the "Rain game" vs Buffalo when he called mostly running plays. Other than that I didn't see much of an advantage - especially during that playoff game.

The guy is arguably considered the greatest nfl head coach of all time and the only time he was a factor on gameday was that ONE game? Sorry,I'm not buying that. He took his team to the playoffs with a rookie QB starting for them. Sure Buffalo won,they should have with a better QB and better overall roster.

He’s a buffoon that lucked out in the 6th round. Without Brady all those years he would have been coaching soccer years ago. His great defensive mind was evident 47 points later. But hey he did orchestra a blocked extra point.

...
Come on, swami. You know that Belichick is better than that.

thisistheshow · June 14, 2022 5:15AM

Buffoon, really? 🤬 It might not be this year, but it will be soon....The Pats will once again be the Bills daddy.

perkdog · June 14, 2022 9:24AM

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Tabe · June 14, 2022 3:30PM

@thisistheshow said:

Come on, swami. You know that Belichick is better than that.

Well, he's 71-79 as a head coach without Brady, including 35-35 in New England.

thisistheshow · June 14, 2022 6:42PM

@Tabe said:

@thisistheshow said:

Come on, swami. You know that Belichick is better than that.

Well, he's 71-79 as a head coach without Brady, including 35-35 in New England.

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I could defend him here, but at the end of the day, you are right....and he will need to have some decent post-Brady success to change a lot of minds.

1951WheatiesPremium · June 14, 2022 8:14PM

For this to be even close to a fair comparison from which a logical conclusion could drawn, their situation would have to be remotely similar at the point they split up.

Meaning they both leave New England at the same time, each for a team of their own choosing and where they’re (basically) the only lacking piece. Think Bellichek taking over a team with a laughably terrible coach.

Tom Brady replaced a quarterback who had 45ish turnovers the season prior. The difference in interceptions alone provided a massive upgrade to their chances of winning even with our major TD totals on top.

@Tabe - 11-5 with Cassell, 7-9 with Cam, 10-7 with Mac and I think 3-1 but maybe 2-2 from deflate gate suspension with Jimmy G/Jacoby B.

That’s 31-20 (win percentage of .620) but I must be missing 4 wins and 15 losses somewhere with the Pats.

Help me out?

thisistheshow · June 15, 2022 3:44AM

@1951WheatiesPremium said:
For this to be even close to a fair comparison from which a logical conclusion could drawn, their situation would have to be remotely similar at the point they split up.

Meaning they both leave New England at the same time, each for a team of their own choosing and where they’re (basically) the only lacking piece. Think Bellichek taking over a team with a laughably terrible coach.

Tom Brady replaced a quarterback who had 45ish turnovers the season prior. The difference in interceptions alone provided a massive upgrade to their chances of winning even with our major TD totals on top.

@Tabe - 11-5 with Cassell, 7-9 with Cam, 10-7 with Mac and I think 3-1 but maybe 2-2 from deflate gate suspension with Jimmy G/Jacoby B.

That’s 31-20 (win percentage of .620) but I must be missing 4 wins and 15 losses somewhere with the Pats.

Help me out?

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He was also the coach in the PB era as well. 😆

Edited to add: I just reread that. Looks like peanut butter . Maybe I should better call it the BB era, before Brady. But BB is Belichick, so just forget it, no more nonsensical acronyms for today.

Tabe · June 16, 2022 1:33PM

@1951WheatiesPremium said:
For this to be even close to a fair comparison from which a logical conclusion could drawn, their situation would have to be remotely similar at the point they split up.

Meaning they both leave New England at the same time, each for a team of their own choosing and where they’re (basically) the only lacking piece. Think Bellichek taking over a team with a laughably terrible coach.

Tom Brady replaced a quarterback who had 45ish turnovers the season prior. The difference in interceptions alone provided a massive upgrade to their chances of winning even with our major TD totals on top.

@Tabe - 11-5 with Cassell, 7-9 with Cam, 10-7 with Mac and I think 3-1 but maybe 2-2 from deflate gate suspension with Jimmy G/Jacoby B.

That’s 31-20 (win percentage of .620) but I must be missing 4 wins and 15 losses somewhere with the Pats.

Help me out?

You forgot Drew Bledsoe 5-11 in 2000, taking over an 8-8 team, and another 0-2 in 2001 with Bledsoe. And then a couple others I'm sure we're forgetting.

Thoughts on Mac Jones second season

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