Not the date I was expecting, for sure. Was thinking it would be a 1908 no motto or 23-D. Of course, PCGS probably wouldn't have recommended restoration for one of those. If they're recommending it for this coin, they took a good, hard look at it and decided it probably would benefit. Good luck!
Here's a hint to get rid of plastic problems when shooting a pic of the coin. Take one or two drops of cooking oil and coat the slab, the slab scratches will disappear. After shooting make sure you wipe clean the plastic of the oil.
bob
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Looks puttied from those pics. Dipping this coin would remove the putty and allow the luster to be exposed resulting in a possible grade increase.
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@alaura22 said:
Does PCGS charge 3% of the current grade OR the new grade for this service
Either way, restoration would be extremely expensive for a coin of this value. I'd be tempted to crack it out and give it an acetone rinse and then resubmit it for grading.
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
@alaura22 said:
Does PCGS charge 3% of the current grade OR the new grade for this service
Either way, restoration would be extremely expensive for a coin of this value. I'd be tempted to crack it out and give it an acetone rinse and then resubmit it for grading.
That's a very expensive gamble.
If you leave it in the holder, PCGS grade guarantee is still in effect. If you break it out and it downgrades or no grades, you could be out $15,000.
I’ve had the same thing happen when I submitted a 1919 SLQ MS64FH with a CAC for Reconsideration. Not upgraded, returned with that large sticker on the holder recommending Restoration. MUCH lower value than the tough date Saint in the OP!
Call me naive, but I believe this was unbiased advice, and not a push designed just to generate a few dollars of extra revenue for PCGS, or to keep the Restoration personnel busy so they wouldn’t have to twiddle their thumbs. As such, I submitted the coin for Restoration, and it came back looking slightly better, with the same grade.
I kept the paper trail, sent it to CAC to reapply their sticker, which they did, even though the cert number was different.
The before and after photos are not helpful for this discussion, as the only photo I have from afterwards is a TrueView, but is unrepresentatively dark, and is probably the same photo from the original coin. Regardless, the coin was lustrous white, perhaps slightly more so afterwards. I sold the coin, as I upgraded the coin in my SLQ Full Head DATE set. Did I benefit from the extra expenses I incurred in accepting their recommendation, with the various steps needed? I don’t think so. If this same scenario occurs again, would I ignore the recommendation, or accept it? I believe I would accept the recommendation again, and submit it for Restoration.
Steve
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Not the date I was expecting, for sure. Was thinking it would be a 1908 no motto or 23-D. Of course, PCGS probably wouldn't have recommended restoration for one of those. If they're recommending it for this coin, they took a good, hard look at it and decided it probably would benefit. Good luck!
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Here's a hint to get rid of plastic problems when shooting a pic of the coin. Take one or two drops of cooking oil and coat the slab, the slab scratches will disappear. After shooting make sure you wipe clean the plastic of the oil.
bob
Looks puttied from those pics. Dipping this coin would remove the putty and allow the luster to be exposed resulting in a possible grade increase.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Does PCGS charge 3% of the current grade OR the new grade for this service
Mike
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Danco Set
Either way, restoration would be extremely expensive for a coin of this value. I'd be tempted to crack it out and give it an acetone rinse and then resubmit it for grading.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
It could be the same grade. But it would be the new grade.
That's a very expensive gamble.
If you leave it in the holder, PCGS grade guarantee is still in effect. If you break it out and it downgrades or no grades, you could be out $15,000.
I’ve had the same thing happen when I submitted a 1919 SLQ MS64FH with a CAC for Reconsideration. Not upgraded, returned with that large sticker on the holder recommending Restoration. MUCH lower value than the tough date Saint in the OP!
Call me naive, but I believe this was unbiased advice, and not a push designed just to generate a few dollars of extra revenue for PCGS, or to keep the Restoration personnel busy so they wouldn’t have to twiddle their thumbs. As such, I submitted the coin for Restoration, and it came back looking slightly better, with the same grade.
I kept the paper trail, sent it to CAC to reapply their sticker, which they did, even though the cert number was different.
The before and after photos are not helpful for this discussion, as the only photo I have from afterwards is a TrueView, but is unrepresentatively dark, and is probably the same photo from the original coin. Regardless, the coin was lustrous white, perhaps slightly more so afterwards. I sold the coin, as I upgraded the coin in my SLQ Full Head DATE set. Did I benefit from the extra expenses I incurred in accepting their recommendation, with the various steps needed? I don’t think so. If this same scenario occurs again, would I ignore the recommendation, or accept it? I believe I would accept the recommendation again, and submit it for Restoration.
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996