I think they bring the same experience to both tables. Possible that it toned after being slabbed. Cert labels have been known to contaminate a coin's surface.
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@derryb said:
I think they bring the same experience to both tables. Possible that it toned after being slabbed. Cert labels have been known to contaminate a coin's surface.
Not sure of the grade, glare on the slab. However, the fingerprint may not have been visible when graded.... Better pictures would help us further evaluate the coin. Cheers, RickO
Is it possible it changed in the slab due to a bad rinse after it was dipped?
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@PerryHall said:
Is it possible it changed in the slab due to a bad rinse after it was dipped?
Or a post slabbing AT gassing experiment gone horribly wrong
Not likely. Most if not all gassing was performed on rattler slabs which are the least air-tight PCGS slab. All subsequent PCGS slabs were far more air-tight although none are completely so.
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Unless one knows what the bullion piece looked like at grading, we shouldn't offer opinions on our forum creator's ability to grade this item. Even then we wouldn't have it in hand. Too many variables to discuss without knowledge. My opinion at this time is that the bullion piece sucks, but then that's me.
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@Hyperion ---Can we get the serial number of the ASE so we can see the True View?
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I’ve got one that looks similar (color-wise) and it’s just been in a box with some poly-fil type stuff for 20+yrs. Didn’t know anything about toning or what might cause it, it’s just the box it came in as a gift. If I had slabbed (won’t) I would expect a straight grade.
@bolivarshagnasty said:
One of thousands if you have studied this series. Our host doesn't seem to differentiate between AT/NT. Should they care?
They most assuredly should care and I believe that they do. If it would be acceptable for a grading company to stop caring about certain common and/or low value coins, that would become a terrible slippery slope.
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Just spitballing, but somebody submitted it and paid money to have it slabbed?
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The same company that graded this, grades traditional numismatic coins worth 10s, 100sks. Think they use the same judgement?
I think they bring the same experience to both tables. Possible that it toned after being slabbed. Cert labels have been known to contaminate a coin's surface.
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That coin was slabbed long after 1992.
Gold seal. So either recently slabbed or a fake holder. Cannot see the entire cert number to check it out, as gold seal means imaged.
i'm disagreeing with those that disagree
passable nt
Ugly is not a disqualifier.
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Not sure of the grade, glare on the slab. However, the fingerprint may not have been visible when graded.... Better pictures would help us further evaluate the coin. Cheers, RickO
@ricko Its graded MS67. You can see the 67 in the serial number.
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@gumby1234 .... Thanks, overlooked that little detail Cheers, RickO
I think the title should read "How does this Silver Eagle receive a straight grade through PCGS?"
Coins that are damaged can be placed in PCGS holders and not receive a straight grade. Code 91, 92, 93, etc...
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It's fugly
Is it possible it changed in the slab due to a bad rinse after it was dipped?
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Or a post slabbing AT gassing experiment gone horribly wrong
If we could see the S/N, we could see the TrueView.
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According to the OP he found it in a mixed roll and subbed it himself.
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I wonder if there's another latent print on the rev. Given the opposing thumb factor. Peace Roy
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Not likely. Most if not all gassing was performed on rattler slabs which are the least air-tight PCGS slab. All subsequent PCGS slabs were far more air-tight although none are completely so.
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Unless one knows what the bullion piece looked like at grading, we shouldn't offer opinions on our forum creator's ability to grade this item. Even then we wouldn't have it in hand. Too many variables to discuss without knowledge. My opinion at this time is that the bullion piece sucks, but then that's me.
Jim
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@Hyperion ---Can we get the serial number of the ASE so we can see the True View?
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One of thousands if you have studied this series. Our host doesn't seem to differentiate between AT/NT. Should they care?
I’ve got one that looks similar (color-wise) and it’s just been in a box with some poly-fil type stuff for 20+yrs. Didn’t know anything about toning or what might cause it, it’s just the box it came in as a gift. If I had slabbed (won’t) I would expect a straight grade.
They most assuredly should care and I believe that they do. If it would be acceptable for a grading company to stop caring about certain common and/or low value coins, that would become a terrible slippery slope.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I have zero interest in ASEs personally. But isn't a MS67 a low-grade coin? It seems almost all are 69 and 70.
For a 1992 ASE? Yes.
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Hyperion…. please provide the cert number! Not sure what is holding you back
Not much reason to speculate about anything exotic when there are scads of examples like this one.
Didn't he just find this on Reddit? I can find many more on eBay if you like.
They most certainly do, when the mood strikes. But that differentiation is far from a science, despite the efforts (and desires) of many.
How much did you buy it for, and was it from Ebay?
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Well, to each his own, but...
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Part of a bulk submission before sending off to auction????
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