Tell us something about a card that we may not know
Goldenage
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Thought it was cool when Paulmaul pointed out that Rusty Staub did not have a 1973 Topps card but he did make an appearance in the set on another players card.
Tell us something about about a card, set, or regional issue that we may not be aware of.
Here’s one. Whenever Jeremy Roenick signs this rookie card, he has stated that he will never sign over Brett Hull’s face out of a sign of respect to Brett.
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Some may already know this but on the 1956 Topps Hank Aaron card they actually show Willie Mays sliding into him and not Hank Aaron.
I've done a lot of research on the 1955 Parkhurst hockey set in the last few years. One of the mysteries of the set are the availability of tan back variations, which are akin to the 1956 Topps grey back/light back variations. Tan backs are tougher to locate than grey backs generally.
Based on my research, there are no documented tan back variations for #1 Harry Lumley, #33 King Clancy, and #67 Toe Blake. I've only been able to document one #37 Rocket Richard tan back, which appears to have been cut from a strip. It is shown below beside a regular grey back variation Richard.
All the tan backs that are not documented are located on the bottom row of the sheet and are single printed on the sheet, which means for some odd reason Parkhurst likely didn't cut the final tan back row for distribution in packs.
It might be that the tan back Richard below is a singular example, which is pretty cool.
-Nathanael
Lumley, Clancy, and Richard are the three send ins from Quaker Oats ?
If so, it’s ironic how they are also involved in this mystery.
The Rocket on the left of your picture appears to have a stained front. Any chances that is a water stain and the water discolored the reverse ?
Hi Goldenage,
The Richard has uneven toning but isn't water damaged. The card stock is categorically different from the grey backs. 100 percent certain the Richard pictured is from the tan backs sheet.
The 1955 Quaker Oats sp's Lumley, Clancy, and Richard were all located side by side on the parkhurst sheet on the bottom right of the 11th and bottom row. This allowed Parkhurst, which used guillotine cutting until 1957, to cut and collate those cards separately to be held back by Quaker Oats and inserted as they wished.
Who knows why Parkhurst withheld the 11th row cards in the tan back variation, but it was very helpful in undertaking my research on the sheet reconstruction.
-Nathanael
Good work Nathaniel. Geez the coin guys on the coin forum could have a 10 page back and forth on the toning on that Rocket. Thank God that won’t happen here.
The first short print ever graded by PSA was a fake. Someone took a regular Clancy and glued another cards green back to the back while doing “damage” to Clancys name on the back. I contacted PSA and the eBay seller and PSA removed it from the market.
Guys like you and I who love the purity and joy this hobby brings can only enjoy it more with the knowledge you’re gaining with your research, and can pass it on to others as well.
For a lot of anecdotes that fit well with this thread, I suggest reading two books by Ken Reid, Hockey Card Stories (volume 1 and 2).
https://amazon.com/Hockey-Card-Stories-Favorite-Players/dp/1770411976
https://amazon.com/Hockey-Card-Stories-Favourite-Players/dp/1770413502/ref=pd_lpo_1?pd_rd_i=1770413502&psc=1
While arguably a top 10 player of all time, he’s a bit underrepresented card wise in his career.
Stan Musial has two rookie cards - the less traditional 1946 Propagandas Montiel and the more traditional 1948 Bowman - and yet, oddly enough, in either case, he was already a one or two time MVP at the time they were issued and already on his way to winning his third MVP as Bowman packs were selling in 1948. His first Topps card was his 1958 All Star and his first base card would be in the 1959 set.
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There is a really cool Mantle cartoon on the back of the 1957 Topps Larry Jackson.
Kiss me twice.....let's party.
I'm still not sure if anybody noticed this before I did, but a few years ago I discovered that these 2 pictures in these Michael Jordan cards were snapped at the very same exact time......from different angles by 2 different photographers! How is this even possible?
Shane
That jordan is incredible - great find!
Card number 800, Darryl Palmer, in the 84 Topps set. Produced in limited quantities as a prop for the movie The Slugger's Wife. Features Danny Noonan of Caddyshack fame as Darryl Palmer.
In the issued 1984 set the head shots in the insert boxes extend outside the box. There is a proof set of 66 cards where the heads are all "Encased" completely within the box. That set is notable for the Carlton card having Gary Mathews in the insert and the Mathews card having Carlton. Also Many Trillo appears as an Indian....err Guardian, rather than a Giant
Encased set
This rarely seen Mickey Mantle card is the last one issued during his playing days by the team, itself. The Yankees franchise was far past the golden days of the previous decade and basically in the decline during the second half of the 60s - ticket sales were down, merchandising was down, the big stars were departing and the Mets were improving across town. After the ‘68 season, Mickey was finished and told the powers that be; they asked him to take the off-season to think it over and keep his decision to himself until Spring Training, partly because they’d hoped he would change his mind but mostly to sell more Mickey merchandise and more season tickets in the off-season under the guise that he was still a Yankee. There are not a ton of these floating around that I have seen. I have the whole set of six 4x6 cards that came together - including the Mantle. And recently, a sealed package appeared on eBay which made the exact date of the item (top right of packaging, 3rd photo) much easier and more certain.
1969 MLBPA Framing Pictures - New York Yankees
The unopened pack:
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This is a joke, nothing more:
Because Michael Jordan only had about five highlights with the Wizards so though the camera men were bored, they definitely had the cameras ready every time.
😂😂😉
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Good one! That's as good of an explanation as any I could come up with! I realize that was tongue in cheek! LOL. However, to set the record straight, let me list a few highlights from his Wizards days. Keep in mind he was 38, 39, and 40 years old with the Wizards.
He averaged 22.9 and 20.0 pts per game during those 2 seasons. How many young studs today have never accomplished that?
He had a 51 point game at the age of 38.
He had a 45 point game just shy of his 40th birthday
He had a 43 point game after turning 40.
The Ron Mercer block!
Last second shot in the 2003 All Star Game.
For your viewing pleasure....MJ lighting it up for 51 points!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh-szbNsmHw&ab_channel=HouseofHighlights
Shane
This a small glossy paper poster rather than a card.
Blum's Baseball Bulletin - printed from 1905 to 1979.
Here's 2 "premiums" that I picked up many years ago - didn't really want/need them but got them very cheap as I recall.
Here's the checklist:
and an excerpt from the Standard Catalog:
An example of the Bulletin:
And the 2 - 9 1/2 X 14" premiums:
Those are very nice, Mike.
Your collection continues to amaze. Would love to see how the “mancave” turned out.
That Ron Mercer block is one of my favorite Jordan highlights of all time. I was watching the game live and wondered who the blocker was. I kept playing it over and over again and couldn't believe it when I found out it was Jordan.
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Always wondered what the cardboard material was made of.
Now I know.
This one may be more well known, but I recently found out about this and I thought it was pretty cool. This Candy Maldonado card is pretty basic on the front, but if you look at the back there's a guy holding a glove as Candy plays long toss. That guy is none other than actor Corey Haim.
Gary Pettis' 14-year-old brother ended up on his brothers 1985 Topps baseball card. Gary refuses to sign that card too.
https://www.mlb.com/cut4/gary-pettis-1985-topps-card-origins-revealed-c289718392
Not exactly a card fact but a cool piece of trivia with the emphasis on piece. Believe it or not, there is no James Bond film starring Sean Connery where he isn’t wearing a hair piece of some kind. Yes, even in Dr. No…
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This Pepe Mangual rookie card sold for over $1,500. Nobody knows why.