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braddick
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So I bid and won this auction:
You can see why I wanted the NGC coin!
"Fast" forward two weeks, and this shows up in the mail today:
Really?
Another hassle trying to get this straightened out.
I just had to vent!
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And not even the same grade either... that's frustrating. Best of luck getting it worked out!
Coin Photographer.
That sucks! Was the 29 you received from one of the seller's other listings? If so, good luck getting it pried from the person who was supposed to get the 64RD prong coin.
That is what is odd.
The seller doesn't generally deal in coins (usually knives and whatnot). He isn't and hasn't ever offered an MS64 1929. I think personally someone tipped him off as to the value of the older NGC coin vs what I paid. It was a two-coin lot and the generation of NGC wasn't noted in the title or description.
I hate to think anything nefarious took place, but it is so odd.
I am in communications with the seller now.
I hope my email isn't too rigid?
Here it is:
New message to: deansviks (3,025RED_STAR Star)
I received two coins today. The ANACS coin is correct, yet you sent me an NGC MS64 1929 cent instead of the older generation holder MS65 cent I bid and won.
Perhaps this was only an error on your part and not nefarious. If so, please send me my correct coin and I will send back the wrong coin.
Obviously, there is a value difference between the two and I would like to receive the actual coin I won in this auction.
Regards,
Pat Braddick
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If he didn't know there was a price difference, he does now.
If it were me I would have just started off saying he didn't send the same coin/grade in the auction.
But maybe you already figured he knew what he was doing...
Hope it works out for you.
If it were me, I would have just kept it simple and say "you sent the wrong coin, please send the correct coin and I will send back the one I received" hoping it was an honest mistake, and thus not tipping the seller off about the value difference.
I'd be sure to have the seller pick up the return shipping. Best of luck with this!
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To a non-coin person, that NGC holder is visibly different...
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Yeah- people should probably stick to Facebook and Craigslist when buying coins. I'm sure that'll protect you from running into wingnut sellers.
Uh oh, your coin may have gone to the buyer of this lot . . .
https://www.ebay.com/itm/284787600297?hash=item424ea9eba9:g:AacAAOSwcMFiaFFi&nma=true&si=Ja1YS9FjldqcV6fNLLAoBb2%2FMAo%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Idiot sellers. Rubber band your slab lots together!
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
I think Connecticoin is probably right - lots accidentally got switched during shipping. I’m going to guess innocent mistake. Seller has been on EBay for 20 years with seemingly good feedback.
Sometimes mistakes happen!
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you could look up the sellers ended listings to see if there is a 64rd 1929 in another listing. could give you an idea if it were an accidental mixup of slabs. certainly has been known to happen from time to time and if so, should give you confidence to still do business with the seller.
if no other listing matches, the seller doesn't say it was sent to wrong buyer or offer to send it in exchange for the errant one you received, i hope you pick something REALLY good from em in the future.
all boils down to what the seller says/does.
Why would you make the suggestion/accusation that something "nefarious" was going on? It is probably just a mistake. At the very least, you should give him the benefit of the doubt.
That is certainly disappointing. I hope it works out well for you - please keep us advised of the issue as it develops. Cheers, RickO
Even if it was nefarious (unless it’s an egregious scam with no plausible honest cause), calling him out from the start doesn’t do anything to help you. If you play dumb and just state the wrong coin was sent, then if it’s an honest mistake he won’t know there’s anything more to it (you haven’t tipped him off) and if it was intentional, he still doesn’t know anything new. I’d have just said that the wrong coin was sent and you would like to have the correct coin shipped to you, and you’ll return the incorrect one. Keep it simple, keep it civil.
With an "unsophisticated" seller I would focus on the certificate numbers. Just write "somehow you sent me X number NGC coin instead of Y number NGC coin and see how he responds. It's to bad if you thought you won a "deal." But, there is always another day and another coin. I've had dealers tell me something I bought "disappeared."
It's fairly obvious the seller, or more likely his/her helper, grabbed the wrong 1929 by mistake. Whether or not you get the coin you paid for hinges on the honesty of the other buyer. Hope it works out. Unfortunate that you inferred dishonesty on the seller's part before simply investigating a bit like Connecticoin did above.
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Now that the seller probably knows the other slab is valuable, they will just say return the lot for a refund.
Thanks, guys.
Some well-thought-out opinions have been expressed.
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Or just as (if not more) likely, he’s honest and will act ethically.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
The seller took clear pictures of two graded coins, the tag information on the NGC tag is completely different than the one they sent you, that means he shipped you something other than what you bought!
I would hold him responsible for a refund, or getting you the correct items,
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The slab isn't that valuable. 3.0's are cool but not scarce like 2.0's or anything. The coin looks like a monster tho.
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
Send them back on his tab cause this is a blatant ripoff.
I’m sorry this happened to you.
The seller and I have had great communication. It truly was a simple error on his part.
I will keep the coin (and probably offer it myself in a no-reserve auction down the road) with a
partial refund from the seller.
My first message to him was a bit stern yet I was perturbed when I opened the envelope. We had a quick and lovely exchange since then.
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It’s probably an honest mistake, not a “blatant ripoff”. Did you read the post by @Connecticoin and make use of the link he posted?
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Thanks for the update and glad it worked out for you.
K
I got the wrong coin once - and yes someone else got my coin. Of course - I got the lower value one (couldn’t be the other way around for once???) - and as maybe expected, the other buyer didn’t say much until confronted... but - the good news is he or she did send back my coin to the Seller and so it worked out. But it took some time and was frustrating.
Frustrating situation. Glad it worked out.
I once had a seller send me a different medal than the one I bought. I bought a 1964 boy scout jamboree continental dollar and they sent me a bronze bsa medal. It was just a shipping mistake. Told them I would send the wrong one back but they told me to keep it. Not a high value item but appreciated it.
The worse is when you win an auction. The seller tells you they can't find the coin but you know they didn't like the winning bid. That has happened twice to me. Not cool.
As a buyer, you know you will not lose money on this deal, but of course you are looking to get the windfall (for lack of a better word) you won and are entitled to receive. Good luck
Please let us know how it works out. It will show the integrity of the seller.