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2021 Washington crossing the Delaware



Hi all what do you think about this 2021 Washington the obverse if you look at Liberty especially the b and in God we trust looks like possible doubling. on the reverse the q and the u in a quarter could be doubling too. That's why I'm out here to learn fail learn fail and fail some more..
Lol. I can't remember if it was the q in the u in the 2021 that had a doubling somebody refresh my memory
Thanks everybody and have fun

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is machine doubling, no numismatic premium. Cheers, RickO

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    Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,672 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Time to study up on mechanical or machine doubling. Makes crh that much more rewarding. Good luck. Peace Roy

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    MenzaMenza Posts: 84

    Man there's so many different varieties and errors I go crazy reading all about it this is supposed to be my hobby turning into an obsession thanks guys and gals

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If the variety or error has no WOW! factor it is not worth getting excited about.

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    MenzaMenza Posts: 84

    Thanks everybody I'm having a hard time understanding the mechanical doubling versus doubled die but 291fifth said no wow factor could it be that I am looking too hard for errors I need an easier way to go through these quarters without driving myself nuts I find myself looking at each coin under a microscope and driving myself nuts so the wow factor is that looking at the coin kind of quickly looking for the noticeable errors or the coins slapping you in the head because it is so noticeable

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    OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Menza said:
    Thanks everybody I'm having a hard time understanding the mechanical doubling versus doubled die but 291fifth said no wow factor could it be that I am looking too hard for errors I need an easier way to go through these quarters without driving myself nuts I find myself looking at each coin under a microscope and driving myself nuts so the wow factor is that looking at the coin kind of quickly looking for the noticeable errors or the coins slapping you in the head because it is so noticeable

    Try these links to get a better understanding about how dies are made and the characteristics of hub doubling (occurs when making the die) and mechanical and die deterioration (occurs during striking and is considered process variability, not an error)

    Spend some time reading and studying them

    How dies are made
    https://www.doubleddie.com/58201.html

    Hub doubling characteristics
    https://www.doubleddie.com/58222.html

    Worthless doubling characteristics
    https://www.doubleddie.com/144801.html

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Menza said:

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    the subtlety of actual vs machine doubling can be difficult enough to discern from images and images that aren't clear and large enough, especially for new and/or unknown varieties, virtually impossible. as nice as your images are, they will need to be sharper in order for us to be of any real assistance now and in the future, imo.

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    coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,767 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Menza said:
    Thanks everybody I'm having a hard time understanding the mechanical doubling versus doubled die but 291fifth said no wow factor could it be that I am looking too hard for errors I need an easier way to go through these quarters without driving myself nuts I find myself looking at each coin under a microscope and driving myself nuts so the wow factor is that looking at the coin kind of quickly looking for the noticeable errors or the coins slapping you in the head because it is so noticeable

    Yes if you ae using a microscope you are trying too hard, 98% of the time if it takes a microscope to see the anomaly it has no wow factor and thus minimal value (assuming that you do actually have a true error/variety). It takes some effort and study on your part too know that 2% from the 98%.

    That is not too say that those minor errors and varieties have no value, just that very few collectors would pay for them, collectors that want those kinds of coins would rather find them than pay for them.

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    MenzaMenza Posts: 84

    Thanks everyone I do have doubleddie on my homepage and I look forward to exploring it thanks for all the advice guys I'll have to do more homework hope there's no test tomorrow LOL

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