How bad rim damage today needs to be for a coin to return in a body bag by PCGS ?
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Hello ( About: Authentic. Details grade holdered coins.)
How excess rim damage needs to be to not make it inside a PCGS details holder ?
Or how bent a coin needs to be for PCGS to not place it inside a holder ?
Any experience ?
What are some of the worst damaged coins in PCGS detail holder ?
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I imagine the age and rarity of the coin is a major factor.
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PCGS is tougher on that type of damage than NGC in my experience.
A recent thread comes to mind about a buffalo nickel that was struck on a Gold Planchet
The coin was filed into (destruction test to determine authenticity) and came back bodybagged from PCGS.
It later straight graded with the damage at NGC...
I think this sums it up, as that was the only known error of its type, so it "slid" into a straight holder.
Think Chopmarked Trade dollars, "e" and "L" counterstamped bust halves, the 1804 Dollar with a "D" punched in it, and others all in straight holders with descriptions.
about 5 years ago, I send in a beautiful 1839-O $2.5 coin with a counterstamp "L" in it, which is documented to have been done at the subtreasury in the 1800's to indicate a Lightweight planchet...
Came back bodybagged - damaged details. I later found a lot of the support history research so if I send it in again I'll include all of that paperwork in hopes that is straight grades.
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**> about 5 years ago, I send in a beautiful 1839-O $2.5 coin with a counterstamp "L" in it, which is documented to have been done at the subtreasury in the 1800's to indicate a Lightweight planchet...
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If the rim damage was significant enough that it shows any evidence of repair, it would be body bagged. Other than that, I think it’s subjective.
I cannot say what the current temperature is on this subject, however this bust half was rejected and the reason given was the rim ding above the cap. I suspect that if not for that it would have been called cleaned, this was rejected ten years ago or so.
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It really depends on the type. For issues that are genuinely rare, certain things are often overlooked. The rim bump near the date was apparently not a deal-breaker for this coin:
or the bump near stars 8&9 on the obverse of this one:
The same thing on a Walker or Morgan would instantly disqualify it.