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1973 Washington Quarter Error

Golden1Golden1 Posts: 208 ✭✭✭

I am 99.99% sure this is an error. The coin appears to be flattened from the stamping process, The coin is smooth semi-shiny with very little to no wear from circulation. This was not done in a change machine or by someone after the mint. It looks like a new coin in hand.
What would you call this type of error, 'broad strike?
Pictures don't do it justice. Do you see any value to this?



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  • Golden1Golden1 Posts: 208 ✭✭✭
    edited May 2, 2022 7:27AM

    @FredWeinberg said:
    It’s damaged, I’m sorry to say, and it’s not an error coin of any kind or type

    Then it was damaged at the mint. The obverse has mint luster semi mirror finish, no scuffs or scratches.
    The reverse details are flattened with no scratches or scuffs.
    All the details are smooth like it had come from the mint.
    Like I said, the pictures don't do it justice.

  • Golden1Golden1 Posts: 208 ✭✭✭

    @FredWeinberg said:
    It’s damaged, I’m sorry to say, and it’s not an error coin of any kind or type

    I would be glad to send it to you for your assessment.

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,103 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Were there Wawas with paved parking lots in 73?

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,864 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Your coin is very obviously Post Mint Damage.

    You need to learn about the minting process, and you need to learn to be more open to the opinions of the experts, such as the one whose assessment you challenged above.

    Until he recently retired, he was the person at PCGS who would have reviewed your coin had you submitted it. He has saved you maybe $100 in grading and associated fees (assuming you were already a member of PCGS and had submission privileges).

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,417 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Namvet69 said:
    Were there Wawas with paved parking lots in 73?

    The damage could have occurred any time after it was minted.

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  • Golden1Golden1 Posts: 208 ✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    Your coin is very obviously Post Mint Damage.

    You need to learn about the minting process, and you need to learn to be more open to the opinions of the experts, such as the one whose assessment you challenged above.

    Until he recently retired, he was the person at PCGS who would have reviewed your coin had you submitted it. He has saved you maybe $100 in grading and associated fees (assuming you were already a member of PCGS and had submission privileges).

    Like I said, I will send it to Fred, no charge to him. He can look it it and verify it's what he says. Worse case Fred has a damaged quarter at no cost to him. If some how it is an error, Fred can do what he wants with it.

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,103 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am being facetious. Easy to see what it is not.

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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Golden1 said:

    @FredWeinberg said:
    It’s damaged, I’m sorry to say, and it’s not an error coin of any kind or type

    Then it was damaged at the mint. The obverse has mint luster semi mirror finish, no scuffs or scratches.
    The reverse details are flattened with no scratches or scuffs.
    All the details are smooth like it had come from the mint.
    Like I said, the pictures don't do it justice.

    You could shoot pictures of it with a 500MP Hasselblad and it's still going to be simple post mint damage, and a lot of it.


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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    im glad i stopped picking up errors in the parking lot

  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Golden1 "Worse case Fred has a damaged quarter at no cost to him."

    Hey @FredWeinberg now that you are retired you could use the extra income. ;):D

  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,925 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • Golden1Golden1 Posts: 208 ✭✭✭

    I just threw it in the garbage. You guys can save all your jokes and rude comments for another day.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That sure looks like blazing mint luster to me! ;)

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,597 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You may be 99% sure it is a mint error, but I am 100% sure it is post-mint damage.

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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Golden1 said:
    I just threw it in the garbage. You guys can save all your jokes and rude comments for another day.

    Help me understand the mindset of someone who comes here supposedly looking for opinions and then gets all butthurt when they receive them. You had the guy who literally wrote the book on errors tell you it isn't one, several advanced collectors and at least one 34-year full time dealer told you the same thing, yet you still choose to pout about it instead of thanking them for saving you money in fees.


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  • FrankHFrankH Posts: 982 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could be an example of modern HAMMERED coinage.

  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Golden1 said:
    I just threw it in the garbage. You guys can save all your jokes and rude comments for another day.

    Guess your convictions weren't that strong after all. Throwing it in the garbage? You could have at least used to to jam up a vending machine or something like that. There is no way that coin could look "new in hand" unless under the influence of something.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FrankH said:
    Could be an example of modern HAMMERED coinage.

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,565 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Golden1 said:
    It looks like a new coin in hand.

    I want some of what you are smoking.

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,864 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Golden1 said:
    I just threw it in the garbage.

    That's the one option I would never have suggested. :#

  • MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is another of what I call a BATH coin: Beaten All To Hell.

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:

    @Golden1 said:
    It looks like a new coin in hand.

    I want some of what you are smoking.

    You might not.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Golden1 ... That is 100% Post Mint Damage (PMD). Fred Weinberg is a leading expert on errors, and prior to his recent retirement, was THE authority at PCGS. There are several other experts here that are telling you the same thing. If you still doubt it, send it in. Cheers, RickO

  • vplite99vplite99 Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Worthless thread. Another.

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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,243 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know what that coin ever did, but while your photos may not do it justice, it seems like justice has been served and that coin has more than paid its debt to society.

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  • Golden1Golden1 Posts: 208 ✭✭✭

    Hope this provides you old geezers with some more fun, between turning the hose on the neighbor kids for stepping on your grass. Someone had to work on this coin in a shop to get it to look like that.


  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah, still just a damaged quarter.

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,864 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Golden1 said:
    Hope this provides you old geezers with some more fun, between turning the hose on the neighbor kids for stepping on your grass.

    Maybe if you'd set aside your age-ist bigotry you'd learn a few things. ;)

  • OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Golden1

    All errors and varieties can by explained as to how they occur during the minting process. Many of the the responses you received are from people who are knowledgeable of that process and are telling you that what you have can't occur. There are an almost infinite number of ways for a coin to be damaged after it left the mint, but only a limited number of ways an error can occur.

    Can you provide an explanation as to how you think this might happen?

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,746 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like something I did when I was a kid.............like Sid! 🤣 😅

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,565 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pretty sad that member @Golden1 has been a member here since 2007 and has learned so little.

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  • Golden1Golden1 Posts: 208 ✭✭✭

    I don't care about the coin. I have learned a lot here. That many of the people here are not nice guys. I wouldn't recommend young people to get into this hobby if they have to deal with people like you.
    Shame, because I met so many nice people at shows, just not here.

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,243 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Golden1 said:
    Hope this provides you old geezers with some more fun, between turning the hose on the neighbor kids for stepping on your grass. Someone had to work on this coin in a shop to get it to look like that.


    Why, indeed, that's right! Someone had to work on the coin in a shop! As opposed to, you know, the Mint screwing up.

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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,491 ✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:

    @Golden1 said:
    Hope this provides you old geezers with some more fun, between turning the hose on the neighbor kids for stepping on your grass. Someone had to work on this coin in a shop to get it to look like that.


    Why, indeed, that's right! Someone had to work on the coin in a shop! As opposed to, you know, the Mint screwing up.

    Definitely looks like "cut" marks from 12 to 2.

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  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @telephoto1 said:

    @Golden1 said:
    I just threw it in the garbage. You guys can save all your jokes and rude comments for another day.

    Help me understand the mindset of someone who comes here supposedly looking for opinions and then gets all butthurt when they receive them. You had the guy who literally wrote the book on errors tell you it isn't one, several advanced collectors and at least one 34-year full time dealer told you the same thing, yet you still choose to pout about it instead of thanking them for saving you money in fees.

    Some people just can't help biting the hand that feeds them. ;)

  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Golden1 said:
    I don't care about the coin. I have learned a lot here. That many of the people here are not nice guys. I wouldn't recommend young people to get into this hobby if they have to deal with people like you.
    Shame, because I met so many nice people at shows, just not here.

    Before really believing that, maybe you need to look hard in the mirror. Based on your responses here, you should throw the first stone at that mirror. Damn.

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,565 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Golden1 said:
    I don't care about the coin. I have learned a lot here. That many of the people here are not nice guys. I wouldn't recommend young people to get into this hobby if they have to deal with people like you.
    Shame, because I met so many nice people at shows, just not here.

    I cannot help but wonder if you bought this coin from one of those "nice" people at a show.

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  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,699 ✭✭✭✭✭

    post mint damage i get those in change every once in awhile

  • CoinHoarderCoinHoarder Posts: 2,608 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PMD

  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Namvet69 said:
    Were there Wawas with paved parking lots in 73?

  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,925 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And during which part of the minting process do you think this occurred?

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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,243 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinHoarder said:
    PMD

    Great visual on how this happened

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