Is this a old ANACS holder ?
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If so how old is this holder ?
I cannot see the word “anacs” on it …
The reverse is a hologram …?
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Yes.
ANA/Anacs.
Yes it is👍
Yep.
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It's a very early ANACS slab, it predates the acronym.
Thank you ...are these worth anything?
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They sell quite well, especially nicely toned examples.
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Never knew plastic could tone. Perhaps fade a bit but never tone.
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Probably late 1980's. I doubt if anyone would pay a premium for the holder.
Indeed it is
Nice! Don't see those too often..
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They would.
There is a member that has a thread on the BST looking for these holders specifically. According to the data compiled by forum member @86Saab this is generation 1, the first and only slab the ANA used prior to selling to Amos Press. From his work this was used 2/89 to 6/90.
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Is this the thread ?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1019761/anacs-slab-by-generation-info/p1
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It predates the acronym on the slabs, though of course we were using the acronym on photo certificates long before I started there in 1978.
Yes that has the link to his work on cataloguing the ANACS generations.
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I think there is a strong collector base for these holders, at least at my house:
I seldom see these anymore, but like you I very much like them and will buy if I like the coin and the price.
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Yes, nice coin, too!
I used to house my entire Morgan dollar collection in old ANA slabs but began crossing them over to PCGS over the years. Most of them crossed at or slightly above the ANA grade. Very few "down-graded," the most notable of which was a DMPL 1890-CC which went from 64 DMPL to 63 PL.
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My feelings exactly. I rarely see them anymore and I think most have been cracked out and sent to NGC or PCGS for reslabbing.
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I remember seeing these occasionally at shows in the PNW when I lived there. Did not buy them - only because I did not like the coins. Cheers, RickO
This is the kind of item that has a thin market. Yes, there may be some collectors out there who will pay a premium for them but most will not. This is especially true in the case of common date coins such as the 1923 Dollar with high MS grades.
About two years ago I sold some coins in "rare" holders, including one in the type of holder shown in this thread. The dealers to whom the coins were offered had absolutely no interest in paying a premium for any of the holders. An attempt on my part to promote the rarity of the holders met with complete indifference. If the holder wasn't PCGS or NGC the coin would be considered as raw.
If you can get someone to pay a premium for the coin in question take the money and run!
Expressing disinterest in a coin offered for sale is a common negotiating tactic used by dealers to get the coin at the cheapest price possible.
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My experience with these older ANACS holders is you can drop the non TPG Grading discount.
Agree, in the past any ANACs holder was treated with little interest from dealers and priced as raw. When I needed about 10K for my son's college tuition 8 years ago, I brought about 75 slabbed Morgans to a big B&M dealer in NJ. Bot almost every PCGS holder, many NGC if the date was right or 63 & above, but no ANACs, even though all were the older holders, better dates or 63 and up. He was looking for quick turnaround and didn't want to hold the ANACs.
But these old ANACs holders are not treated with disinterest starting about 3 years ago. These old holders are sought out by many collectors, although I would say still a niche market compared to PCGS in terms of liquidity and broad appeal.
In this case the disinterest was genuine. The dealers would not budge on what they offered.
I can see how a potential buyer would say something like the toning is terminal, it is ugly, etc., "I have nowhere to go with it" etc., knowing full well there is a lot of demand for old holders.
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Buy the holder not the coin - who cares about the coin?
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Back in 1994, I bought a 1916-D Mercury Dime that was in one of those old ANA holders. It was a G04. I submitted the coin in the holder to PCGS. PCGS also graded it G04. I still have the coin in a PCGS OGH.